Jamie Loftus

I liked it.

Like what is – if knowledge is coming, what is that?

That's enlightenment?

One of my favorite things about cult stories is just like the moving goalposts and how you're like, oh, you thought that was coming.

Well, actually, there's a secret different kind of come that there is a huge financial barrier to access.

It's going to get difficult quickly if people figure out they can come for free at their house.

And I will say, you know, say what you will about Nicole, but she certainly has gotten creative with it so far.

I have never heard quite of this.

Yep.

Yep.

Yeah.

I'm still enjoying the idea of all of the, like, the few hundred people who are just sort of, like, one toe into the cult.

I think we both live in cities where that is the case for about half of the residents.

You're an open minded guy.

That's so crazy to hear about the New York Times both sizing an issue in which there is a clear right side to be on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every cult is trying to get stand up comedians in the door.

Some of the worst people to come in your door.

They're never forget.