Hailey Bieber
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
was a decision between the two of us and it felt correct for the two of us at the time and clearly we were right because here we are four years later and I think just given the timeline of like where he was at before we got back together and what was going on and there was just a lot happening yeah um
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But I will say too, the only people that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside, you can see it one way when it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And that's a big challenge, I think, of being somebody who is in the spotlight or being famous is that I know how we got to where we got, period. Like that's, I just know how it happened. I was there and I was living it every day. So there's just, yeah, there's a lot that I can understand why people were so like, what is going on? Like, this seems crazy.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
No. Not one time. When him and I started hanging out, like, okay, let's just put it this way. When him and I ever started hooking up or anything of that sort, he was not ever in a relationship. Ever. At any point. I would never... It's not my character to mess with someone's relationship. I would just never do that. I was raised better than that. I'm not interested in doing that and I never was.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think that... There are situations where you can still kind of have like back and forth with someone. But even that was not the situation. Like I can say period point blank. I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. And I had been involved with him since I was 18. The timeline...
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
care it's a gift because when I tell you I couldn't walk after I wore those I was like okay Haley we're not on the same playing field she clearly knows what she's doing if you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends who would it be it's so interesting because I feel like me and all my friends have such different style that I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet that is just
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
also that I think sometimes is in question of like us getting together and getting engaged and him having been spending time with his ex before that um this is so crazy I've literally never talked about this ever I understand again how it looks from the outside and there's a lot of perception there but that was a situation where I I know for a fact that
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
it was the right thing for them to close that door. They were not in a relationship at that time, but of course there's a very long history there and it's not my relationship. It has nothing to do with me. So I respect that a lot, but I know that it closed a chapter and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Be engaged and get married and like move on with with his life in that way. And it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf again because it was their relationship and I honestly respect that very deeply. But I just know. what was going on when we got back together. And I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made. And I respect that as a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them. And think in the back of my mind, I wonder like,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
if that was really like closed for you and like, and I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed. And that is respectful to me.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, can't stop moving. And I'm like crawling because I just feel like,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
There's like a little bit of that like anxiety of like people will probably take it the wrong way or like I just don't want to say something that is like being disrespectful or like bringing up something that can like stir up feelings for someone that like I know that we're just all so far moved on from like.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And I guess maybe that just comes from like the fact that they wished that like he had ended up with someone else. And that's fine. Like you can wish that all you want, but that's just not the case.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I don't well I think there's like a certain like almost like numbness that you get where you just like you just know what's gonna happen it still happens to this day this is you're talking about something that was two years ago now almost three and it's something that's if I was to go live on Instagram right now it would still be happening probably less which is nice but you just reach a point where you're just like you have to just like ignore it and be like okay
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Well, because I know that for him, that's hurtful because. if we have moved on, why can't you? Like that's kind of just the whole thought process of like, it's just hurtful. It's hurtful.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I mean, who wouldn't want to share, like, trade classes with her? I'll trade houses with her, too, if she ever wants.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But it's hard. I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist, with a therapist before because I'm just like I hate comparison. The whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship is being compared to something else or I'm being compared to another woman and – You know, get the fuck out of the way type of a thing.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So where I'm at and the position I'm in, it's not it's it's not for everybody, but everybody has a purpose. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this or I'm I'm I could have nothing figured out right now if.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
in an alternate situation in an alternate life and i think hilly he was america's bad boy sweetheart and so i think there's ownership people and fans feel there is there totally is and there's also this like why is it you there's so much of that that i feel like why why you though Like and I'm like, I don't know. Right. Like I just fell in love. He fell in love. We fell in love.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And like it I think there was times where like I'd be I can confidently say I don't think we knew it was going to be each other several times. So like I can't say that. Yes. At 18 years old, I knew 100 percent that that was my husband. I don't fucking I didn't fucking know.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It would have nobody would have. This is the thing. If it was any if it was another person, it's like because so many people have adored him for so long, nobody in their mind would have ever been like the person. And here's the thing, too, is like we're talking about a lot of like the negative side of it.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
There's also so many people who have made me feel so embraced and so encouraged and so loved and. Obviously, it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound, you know... I want to give credit also to the people who have supported and been so kind and so amazing and so great.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But I do think it has changed. I will give credit to say that I do think that four years ago, three years ago, two and a half years ago, because of how intense it was, it made me just very like closed off and like not want to share anything really of myself on the internet. I didn't really want to be open.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like, I can't like, I, I'm, it's like, it's like being like traumatized kind of like you're too scared to like speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing. And then you start to become, I've had, I had moments where I felt like I was becoming very like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Not like a robot, but I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very agreeable and can't say the wrong thing. And it just starts to become this very weird way of feeling where you feel like you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And then that was where it came in with wanting to do YouTube and trying to have a space within this age of the internet and this age of social media where I can say...
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
this is who I actually am, take it or leave it, like me or not, this is who I am, and I felt like actually taking this step to, even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me, taking the step of being like, I'm proud of who I am, and this is my personality, and like, this is gonna sound probably so corny, but like, to me, I've always felt like I was just like,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think it's so funny that I'm like thinking about like, who can I actually like wear all their stuff? I'm like, well, she's an eight and I'm an eight.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
A girl from fucking New York. Oh my God. This is going to sound so cringe. I grew up to me. I felt like very normal. And like, I am from a small town called Nyack. That is like a suburb of New York city. Um, And I woke up every day and like I was homeschooled and like did ballet. And like to me, I feel like I've remained that same person. Of course, life has changed drastically.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But like at the core, I feel like I am proud of who I am at the at the core. Like I know I've always been that same person and I feel very rooted and grounded and I grew up very grounded and rooted. And of course, I
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
came from a famous family everybody you know that's the reality of my life can't change that either um and I just feel like again people didn't really like know me and know my story and know the kind of person I was like people don't know what kind of friend I am they don't know what kind of daughter I am they don't know what kind of sister I am like but I know
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Just leave me alone. I was like half joking, but I was being half serious. Like it was supposed to be something that was like light and funny, but I was also being serious because I like woke up one day and I was like, I am Can't believe we're still doing this.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I'm such a logistical thinker. I'm like, but. if I was to trade with this person and she's a size nine and a half, then I can't have any of this. She's like, Haley, this is not real.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah, like, I was... Which, again, like, I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the internet is a toxic hole and, like, comments are a toxic hole. But I was just, like, curious about something and then I'm, like, reading... I'm like, are we still talking about this? Like, we're getting to...
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
this has been four it's been years now like four years we've been together like come on let it go let's all evolve together let's hold hands and and really like okay we're done like that's how I wanted to that's how I felt in that moment I was like are we serious that this is what we're still doing like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
were still gonna harass me about this this shit there is so much that I could have said there was so much that I at times was like this close to saying and I just felt like there's so there's so many things that were happening where it's also like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
There's a time and a place and there's also a time and a place to let other people express what they need to express and like go through their feelings and emotions and like I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something it was
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
going to make things way worse and not be beneficial again it was going to be my word against someone else's against a bunch of other people and it would just not be beneficial and I've struggled with that for, I had struggled with that for a long time. Like I would talk to my therapist and be like, but it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And then you get into a cycle of like, again, feeling the need to explain yourself. And for me, it's not even about explaining myself. It's about people knowing the truth. Because there's a truth. There is actually the truth of something that happened and there's the truth of what didn't happen.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So I think for me, when people, you know, make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that like just wasn't true. And that's also just the internet making up their stories and like taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside. And there, and by the way, it's not even, it's so many different things. The internet can make up, they can literally sit here and say that I threw up on you.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But that's not, you can sit there and say, Haley threw up on me. It was really crazy. And then I would read that on TMZ and I'd be like, that did not happen. Do you know what I'm saying? There's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like, hello.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Oh, and people were screaming? Mm-hmm. So, yes, I could hear everyone screaming. And, again, I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just, like, I was, like, really surprised. I could kind of hear it, but I didn't know if that's what was really going on until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
That was not true. It wasn't making me cry. although it's a very disrespectful thing to do towards anybody, I felt like I had something in my eye. See, that's just what goes to show you how out of context things can be seen. When he's trying to help me, I'm like, I feel like there's something in my eye. Do you see something in my eye? And I'm going like this.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah. And the sunglasses were just part of my look. They were just part of my look. I knew I was going to wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without. But yeah, I did hear people yelling and. It wasn't making me almost cry.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think seeing the video back after made me like, damn, like that sucks that that's the energy people are like putting out and like that you would even spend your time.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
camping out standing outside and doing that I just felt like it was it was disrespectful to me to my relationship it just was period the end but I think I've endured so much disrespect and I still do to this day that there was like a part of me that was just like another day another negative slay
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
They've never ruined anything for me. they've never, they've never, they're not ruining my life. They're not ruining my happiness. And that I think is really the win of the whole thing. You're actually not taking anything away from me. So that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You cannot take away my happiness, my relationship, my business, my career. Like you just, you can't, you can try and you can be mad about it, but It doesn't change anything is my point.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I'm like sometimes I joke around like would they be happy if I like just moved away and like locked myself in a house and just like. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the goal is. That's what's so funny is I'm just like, I don't try to understand like, what is the goal?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's a 10. I think it's attention. I think a lot of people, sometimes they do things and they say things in hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise. And I've seen it happen with a lot of other people too. Like you're ugly. And then like you respond and you're like, I wish you the best. Like, I'm sorry you feel that way. And they're like, Oh my God, queen. I'm sorry.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
No, it's just like, what was your point? So then the point is like, they get the attention that they thought. I think a lot of people think you'll not respond. And I've had that happen before too. I didn't think you would see it. I'm sorry. And I'm like, so why are you saying it? Are you just bored? Like, I don't know.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's really funny because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were like following me in the car, which is like it happens all the time. Whatever. Like I know that's going to happen if I'm in L.A. There's not very many ways to avoid it. They just sit at the bottom of like my street. So it is what it is.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I guess the biggest thing is like I think it's sad. I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness. I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable? And then that means that I'm living for other people. And that means that I'm being a people pleaser, which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It does bother me when people just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen. Like, it makes me sad. But I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of like, There is no way that you exist as a person, especially not as a person with a platform or in the public eye where everybody loves you.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And that's even in life in general. Even if I was just in a normal situation... Not everybody's going to like you. I'm just existing in front of a lot of people.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So it's very easy to make up your, like make decisions about how you feel about someone, especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing and their social media and there's photos and there's just like life. So I don't know. I think that sometimes it feels really heavy. What has been your lowest moment since all of this began?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
when things can get really dark and you can start having thoughts of like it not being worth it anymore or not wanting to be here anymore, which I have had before in the past. And, um, Coming out of that, I think it's really important. A support system is like the most important thing for sure.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because then you just throw yourself back into like a vicious cycle. I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to go to someone who is going to feel safe for you and support you in those thoughts.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But I was driving and like sometimes when there's paparazzi following me, I have a flash in my head of like getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car. Like I literally sometimes it like it makes me just so annoyed that I'm like one of these days I swear to God I'm going to get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat and I'm going to like destroy their car.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy there's also this like kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate. So like, it's almost like my, my dialogue in my head feels like get the fuck over it.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Like you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are, that are really struggling and you're not like, that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like, get over it. Like you're fine. That kind of a thing. And I've had to really try to be
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
more gentle with myself and like allow myself I'm somebody who like I hate crying in front of people I don't do it like just don't like it and it's been since I was a little kid and I've never understood I mean I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff but I'm like why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries and it's such a vulnerable thing but I'm like it feels so awkward and like cringe to me to cry
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
in front of people and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me so like I have when I say I'm like shy and stuff like I have been guarded emotionally in ways since I was like a little girl so I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the tendencies we have since childhood like what are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have like brought me to the place of feeling like I have to have the self-dialogue of like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You don't get to feel that way. Get the fuck over it. People are way worse off than you. Which is also like true. There are people who are going through a lot different struggles and different things. But it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel. And I'm still working on that. And I'm 100% sure that I will be forever working on that.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
In December, going into the new year, I went to this place that was a like therapy intensive. I was there for seven days, no phone, literally therapy like hours and hours a day. And that was something that we spoke about, about like tiptoeing around the way I feel or like not sticking up for myself because again, it kind of boils back to like, I've never enjoyed confrontation.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel. But she, as far as I can remember, she,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
never liked confrontation and she I feel like didn't stick it up for herself and at times still to this day doesn't say what she wants and is like I don't want to do this I want to do that like she is a very just gentle kind of reserved pulled back woman and there's so much about her that I like super respect but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just she was just very um
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
non-confrontational and there was a lot we didn't talk about there were subjects we danced around and as I've as I've gotten older and had open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about it made me understand why she might be like that but it's a it's a pattern and it's like a learned behavior I think a little bit that I am trying to
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I believe that no matter what, there can always be mutual respect between people. And to me, that means Just that you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't have to say anything either. Because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face. And so do you. And so does Alex.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And so does every single person in this room. So you just, yeah, I think just mutual like respect and decency and, and know that what you say can have impact and know that, yeah, I guess that's what I would say.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I just like, and driving over here, I was like, I literally like, that's my urge right now. And I'm like, at the same time, do I want to give anybody the power to like disturb my energy like that? No, but it's just like a feeling of, it's just annoying.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I mean, what I want to say would be, no, I'm just kidding. No, like that. I always made the joke of like, I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being like, you know what? I get it. Like, I respect her for that. I think we will always have more in common than we don't. That's like where everything comes from for me.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So when I see people being nasty and like attacking me, I'm like, we probably like a lot of the same things.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
What I will say is that she has been in this industry much longer than I have. And maybe there's something that she knows about like it wouldn't fix anything.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
end it all the thing is too is like I think that like all everyone is just trying to like create separation even though there's clearly like not always separation I have no expectation I would never expect someone to do that for me like she doesn't owe me anything I don't owe neither of us owe anybody anything except like respect I respect her a lot and
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think that like, there's just no expectations. If that was something that she felt was necessary, then that would be amazing. But I, I just, yeah, I respect her. There's no drama personally.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
it's the feeling of like hitting a breaking point of like I just I can't stand it anymore and some days are totally fine though and some I can avoid it and like I sometimes like get really lucky and like sneak different ways to like do it but I think what I've come to terms with is like that's gonna happen in LA right you know what I mean this isn't the like middle of of nowhere like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So that's why I'm like, It's all respect. It's all love. That's also why I feel like, well, if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect, then like,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Which had brought me a lot of peace and I'm like hey we know what happened. It is what it is. You're never going to be able to like correct every narrative and there's going to be new ones that come. It's never going to end and that's why I get to the point where I'm like That's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff. Because I'm like, there'll be something new.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
She's like, we're starting over. We're scrapping the whole thing.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
More so night. me too but i do like morning too it's so funny because i talk about this stuff and the reason i get weird about talking about it is because i'm like i my parents are gonna listen to this there's something that feels so cringe no about your parents hopefully they don't make it this far your your parents are probably really progressive and like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Hmm. That's very hard. Because I feel like it's always a combination.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
No. It's funny because... I feel like those ideas can be really fun and like sound really exciting. I think at the point that of inside of our, it doesn't work for the two of us. We personally like that wouldn't work for this. Cause I think sometimes for some people, it does.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
So I've, so I've heard some people are in like open relationships and like, it works for a time, but I feel like in the end it always doesn't end up working. So I think the second you make the decision to do that, there is never going back from that. And I just don't know that I would ever be willing to like, we've worked very hard. We've worked very hard to like be in the space that we're in now.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
trusting each other and there's like such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with or him for that matter can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond um he's really honest like brutally honest overly honest I could ask him about any person any past girl anything and he'd be like oh yeah like this this this and this like he doesn't have a problem being explicit and I think that made me trust him a lot because I'm like there's nothing I don't know
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
you know, where there's like actual privacy. It's like the land of where everything happens. Totally. There's tons of people here. It's also like I'm not the only person that deals with this. It's like so many people deal with it and it comes with the territory. And it's not like I hate when people are like, well, you asked for this because it's like I don't think that's like a real thing to say.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
If they dance around her, he's had people DM him. He'll be like, oh, show me the DMs. And he'll be like, do you think that this person's trying to be nice? Or you think this is weird? And I'm like, I think it's weird. No, it's like he knows he's just saying like... Do you think like this person is like genuinely because it'll come across like super friendly.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also someone where like I really encourage female friendships because I think that you have to be able to have like healthy relationships.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
opposite sex relationships that are friendships um or else you're like closing yourself off all the time and it's like but you're not like having instagram models like walk around your house no of course i'm just saying like of course there's boundaries with everything but totally i'm just saying like don't be afraid to have girlfriends totally right because it's like if you can't it's like oh my god like if i could it'd be like if i couldn't have friends that were guys i think you control
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
what the limitations are in any relationship and any friendship and any work relationship.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think so. It's not like I'm like, I strictly like this one thing and he strictly likes another thing.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah, well, no, I mean, like, one day it might be one thing, one day it might be another thing.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You know, it can be so many different things. It can be like a connection thing. It can be a physical thing. For me, kissing is a big deal. Like that's a that's a big thing for me. It always has been just like in my life before I was married. So I would say that is probably the most.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
The connection point is very important to him of like we could literally just be like laying down talking before and like just having like a really fun conversation. And like that is really important for him. Yeah.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Voting is hot. Yes. Voting is so sexy. Yeah. It's so sexy. Justin can't vote here, but.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras, but I do understand that it comes with the territory.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
It's important to me because I think as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country. We as women are living through a very terrifying reality right now. And I think what we've learned, what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v. Wade was the people that we elect in our states, in our cities, in our counties, They are so important.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And that was something that I was like, shit, like, we got this is really the reality. We got to get on it. I felt very passionate the last election about just. please get him out of there. Like that was like, it felt like legit, like life or death. And it, and it was in so many ways.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Um, and I still feel that even, even more now because you've seen, there's still so many terrible, scary things happening within our country, but I do think there's a chance for like change. And I always think there's an opportunity for change and there's an opportunity to, um, come together and stand up and make a difference.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah, it was tricky, especially very personally, like my dad, my parents. It just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it. which I think is okay. I believe what I believe. I am a fully formed woman now, 25 turning 26. I know what I believe in and what I don't. I know what I stand for and what I don't. And
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
obviously it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you and have such a different perception that sounds crazy and you're just like how did I come from you then I just don't get this but it would it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and argumentative back and forth that it's just like it just can't be talked about
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And it's funny because me and my sister have the same exact point of view, which is nice because at least I'm like, at least I got you.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And then my mom, I'll try to talk to her about something. She's like, I'm from Brazil. So I'm like, okay. My mom's from Brazil, by the way.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Sometimes. Sometimes. I feel like I'm the type of person, and I've always been this way, where I'm like, I trust people until they prove me wrong. Which is like, I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be. I'm a people person. I love to connect with people. I love meeting new people. Sometimes I have a hard time with becoming friends with someone or close to someone.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And it's not something that I even, you know, the last election I was super vocal about it. I plan to do that every single time. It's something that I'm passionate about for sure. So I appreciate you bringing it up.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Of course. Thank you. I think I had an expectation where I know coming on here with you, you're going to go there. That's just the reality of the situation. I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here. I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it is my life, so I should be able to, like – say what I want about it.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You go there in a certain context where it's like I've not gone before and I think that that's like a personal challenge to myself that I want. I wanted to like push myself to like, you know, it's okay to be like, I was uncomfortable multiple times in this conference. My feet are inside of the couch because I was like, how many like protective body positions did I get into? I folded like a pretzel.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
what happens in new york haley to be honest i i really was always a very level-headed young person but i definitely had my moment where like i went to new york i started going out to the club like that's just what happens when i i mean i guess it's not just what happens you move to new york you're going to the club but i i got introduced to like nightlife and going out and drinking and you know
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I definitely had my moments of that. That was like my time, probably like 18 to. I swear, by the time I turned 21, I was like, I'm over drinking.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yes. The first time I got drunk, I was like, oh, my God, this is so funny.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I was 16 yeah I think I was 16 and I used to be a dancer like I've I said before um and I think we had like a recital and one of my friends who I danced with she had like the best house for like sleepovers because she had like the dope basement so we would go in the basement shut the door the parents would never come down so we would take like all the alcohol and uh
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
just get drunk in the basement. The two of you? No, it was like multiple girls. Like all the girls from our dance school. And the first time I like really remember getting drunk, I didn't throw up, which is like surprising. That one time I didn't throw up. Thrown up multiple times from drinking.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But that one time I remember like crawling on the floor because I like could not walk, like could not stand up straight. And I was just mixing everything because I didn't know what to drink. So I can never... If you made me smell Ciroc birthday cake vodka right now... Ciroc? Or like Svedka birthday cake... Pinnacle! Pinnacle. Pinnacle. And you would just bomb.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But I love being cool with people and being social and meeting people and knowing their story and where are they from. I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time. Some newer friends, some not. But I just think... Yeah, I think there's sometimes that aspect of like the distrust of like, I don't know what you want to be around for.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
proceed to fall into a dark hole like trigger me that I feel like that was what we were drinking and then like mixing it with like a beer and like a Mike's hard and like all this crazy like the fact that I didn't throw up is a miracle but I remember waking up the next day and I was so hungover and um I called my cousin who was uh like staying with us at the time who I was really close to
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I am really close to and I was like hey she was older than me I was like can you pick me up from her house I don't want my mom to like pick me up because I had moments with my mom where I'd like go to a party or something and I would have had like a couple sips of a drink and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath so I'm like I can't have my mom pick me up right now like she's gonna know and my friends asked me to take all the empties and find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them so
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
My cousin comes to get me. I take all the bags of empties. We pull over into an Olive Garden parking lot and find a dumpster. Throw it in the dumpster and I'm like sitting in the car with her and I was like, I need you to take me to church. Like I have to go to youth group. That was like where I thought I needed to be because I felt so bad. What? I just felt bad.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I felt like I did something so wrong. Like I got like wasted and I'm hungover. I just felt like hell. So I was like... I need – I need God. I need Jesus. Like, I need to go – and that's, like, legit how I felt. I was like, I got to go to, like, church. And then I remember I went to, like, youth group, and I was so hungover at the youth group that I was like, oh, my God, I got to go home.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Like, I can't be here right now. But that was, like, what my instinct was. Like, I got to go –
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And then that's what's so funny about like me moving into New York City. It would be like Friday night. I was like in up and down taking shots. And then I was like going to church on Sunday, which I think is like so fine. I don't see like a problem with that. It's just the juxtaposition is really funny. The fact that you just referenced up and down in New York.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Like ruin your life, but also like great night. Many, many a traumatizing moment and great moment in up and down.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
haley you're like a normal human going to the ratchet spots i'm obsessed from i lived that was where i was from i lived there do you and justin like go out and have fun still are you able to do that okay we went out last night um to delilah oh which is fun there you go um yeah i think definitely both of us do not turn up the way we used to just simply because it's never worth the way you feel
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
absolutely not I feel like now I get hung over by accident like I wasn't trying to it was just like that last glass of wine you shouldn't have done it I it's hard for me when I was 18 to 20 I felt like I was drinking four times my body weight and was fine
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg, and cheese and a blue Gatorade, and I'm fine.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I had to either get a bagel and a blue Gatorade. It had to be blue Gatorade, though.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant, blue Gatorade. You're back. You're fine. Thriving. Never been better.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
My personality is very like, I don't do well with confrontation. I don't like to like confront awkward situations.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
trying to work on it I'm trying to be better at that but I I never want to like I've always been the type of person where like I don't want to like end things on like a sour note with a person because especially if there's someone like in an industry where I have to see them or like if we're gonna be out somewhere and I gotta see like I don't want to walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone like that stresses me out big time crazy even if it's so you can stick up for yourself
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Yeah. We're working on that today. Yeah. We're working on that. Yeah. Even if that's something I struggle with, even if it's for me sticking up with myself, I just want to like because I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial. I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like. There was like a lot of stuff I found out about the situation.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And then I knew if I confronted the person, they were just not going to own up to any of it. So it's like, what's the point?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
If I'm going to go to you and be like, here's what I found out. I know that it's true. I've seen the proof. I've too many people have said something to me about it and they're just going to be like. I can't believe you would believe that about me. Like, that's just not true.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Why am I going to waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going, who's not in the place in their life or like the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Because I can do confrontation if it's in a calm, appropriate, I'm not a yeller, like I'm not going to like freak out and like I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really like passionate about or defensive about because like I've had that happen to me before. But I still always want to end it on like a, how did we move forward from here?
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Not like, and sometimes the reality I've had to face is that like sometimes that's not possible. Like sometimes you just can't, Be around that person or be friends with that person and, like, it is what it is. Totally. You just have to move on.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
she's burping yeah like i'm throwing up the first person to throw up on color daddy is me um sorry i when i say i will do it for a certain amount of time i mean like if i have to like go be on a carpet for a second and it's just like the look is the look and there's like something like stabbing me in the side like i'll endure it for a second for a few hours and then
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Well, I think based on what you're saying, like one of the, I think, issues with that is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing. And I...
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I had to get over that because I was in a place at one point where I felt like I wanted to like explain the narrative and explain myself and like that's also exhausting so if it's like every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's going to be something that people are like why would she say that? Or like, she's wrong for saying that, or that doesn't make sense.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
You said marriage is hard work. And then I said, then everybody was like, that's not a good sign. If you think that it's like hard, like, it's like, no matter what I say, I'm always going to have to be explaining myself to people, which is why I actually hate doing interviews where they're like, it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said, that's just so out of context.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
But also what I meant when I said hard work is just like there's compromise, there's sacrifice. I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships. Like they can be tough sometimes. I didn't mean it just overall. Yeah, like... it's hard and it sucks. Like that's not what I'm saying at all. It's literally the best thing ever.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
The whole sentence of what I said was like, he's my best friend. I love coming home to him, but like, yeah, it takes work because I'm 25 years old and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends. So trying to balance making my wants and needs and hopes and dreams work
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
well meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career and like we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage so we're making it work and sometimes it's hard how is that not make sense people don't want it to make sense people really want that statement to be like the marriage is ending like here we go but people have been saying that since the beginning so that's why at this point I'm not as I was more sensitive about it I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Totally. No matter what I say, it's like, the marriage is ending. Every single time I say something.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
My own relationship, it's like there's something wrong with it. So it's like I just don't care. People have been saying this now for four years. So let's get into it.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Well, I think the best parts are that – he's my best friend and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most. Like he's just literally the best human to me ever. And I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't,
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through and he has and he's overcome so many different things in his life for being famous so young and the fact that he's as normal as he is he's literally just to me I feel like he's a very like normal regular guy I guarantee you someone takes this and they like fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Um, but I've known him for a very long time. We were friends for a long time before anything else. And like, I just love him.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
obviously he's gone through phases in his life where he was being you know a little out there I didn't want to say like fuck boy because it's like not yeah but like yes and no I don't know I don't know how to describe it but like he was just in a different space in his life and was like I think ultimately when people are like acting out it's just because they're hurting and he was just in a space in his life I mean we're all hurting every single day but I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like we're hurting a lot more we're going through a lot more so we're just
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
different version of ourself that's not really who we are but like to me he's just the best the most fun like I have the most fun with him he understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life and I think that goes both ways and he's just my guy how has being married to someone with that level of Fame impacted your identity
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
where do I start um well I think even for starters this even me talking about him or talking about our relationship people will take that and be like all she ever talks about is her relationship with him and even something like that I'm just like well we are married and he's a huge part of my life and obviously people are very interested in like
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
our life together and he is a humongous public figure so it's like it's a little bit unavoidable at times and I do try to you know have my own thing but it's like our lives are completely meshed together so I don't know I'm like what do you want from me like Of course, people are going to ask me about it. They're going to ask him about it. Like, I just don't see how that's like avoidable.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
And sometimes it is because it's just not necessary to talk about. But like, even in a situation like this, yeah, we're married. I have his last name. Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid like talking about my life. Like, that's my life.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
they were the most uncomfortable shoe I've ever put on in my life I was like what the fuck how does she walk in these it's the one you know what I'm talking about it's the big platform yes but it's the it's basically just the bottom of a shoe and then the string goes around your fucking ankle I used to be a ballet dancer and like dance on point flex on us so I think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just like used to being like it doesn't
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
Nobody would be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or like, you know, a nine to five. Like I just, the reality is that it is what it is.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
First of all, I think one thing is that we're both really young. I think honestly that's for starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21 and he was 24. Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was going to get married that young. Like I always thought I would be maybe getting married now and I'm 25 now and I still think I'm really young.
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Hailey Bieber (FBF)
I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast, which now being four years past that, looking back on it, I totally get it. I'm like, yeah, that seemed really drastic and really crazy because but that was what we felt.