Gretchen Whitmer
Appearances
The Bulwark Podcast
Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters
I think this is the story of Michigan, right? We're a very diverse state. We are a state that tends to go back and forth and like some balance in our politics. And I've won twice with big margins within two years of Donald Trump also carrying Michigan. And so, as I said in my recent address, I'm not out looking for fights. I'm always looking to collaborate first.
The Bulwark Podcast
Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters
I won't back down from an important one, that's for sure. But I got a job to do and we're going to stay focused on moving forward and trying to find common ground where we can.
The Bulwark Podcast
Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters
I think it's to keep listening to the people, and it's part of what I talk about in my book that we've just made for young adults. These are lessons that you can use at any age, right? Learning how to listen is a superpower that not enough people tap into.