Geoffrey Cain

Happy to be here. Good to be here, Barry.

Happy to be here. Good to be here, Barry.

Happy to be here. Good to be here, Barry.

I have been using it and I'm also a big user of AI. I do enjoy using these chatbots and seeing what comes of them. DeepSeek, it is a step forward in AI technology, but the problem here is that this is about much more than AI itself. This is companies in China going to an old playbook that they've been using for a while. against the United States and its companies.

I have been using it and I'm also a big user of AI. I do enjoy using these chatbots and seeing what comes of them. DeepSeek, it is a step forward in AI technology, but the problem here is that this is about much more than AI itself. This is companies in China going to an old playbook that they've been using for a while. against the United States and its companies.

I have been using it and I'm also a big user of AI. I do enjoy using these chatbots and seeing what comes of them. DeepSeek, it is a step forward in AI technology, but the problem here is that this is about much more than AI itself. This is companies in China going to an old playbook that they've been using for a while. against the United States and its companies.

And this playbook is taking technologies that already exist where the U.S. and its allies are on the leading edge and refining them, trying to find ways to execute them better, to incrementally improve them, to make them cheaper, easier to use, and then releasing them on the mass market, in this case, in an open source way.

And this playbook is taking technologies that already exist where the U.S. and its allies are on the leading edge and refining them, trying to find ways to execute them better, to incrementally improve them, to make them cheaper, easier to use, and then releasing them on the mass market, in this case, in an open source way.

And this playbook is taking technologies that already exist where the U.S. and its allies are on the leading edge and refining them, trying to find ways to execute them better, to incrementally improve them, to make them cheaper, easier to use, and then releasing them on the mass market, in this case, in an open source way.

So this is an example of China using that old playbook and trying to catch up and overtake U.S. technology and When I say this, I'm talking about so much more than just Gen I. This is only one example of this technology leaping forward.

So this is an example of China using that old playbook and trying to catch up and overtake U.S. technology and When I say this, I'm talking about so much more than just Gen I. This is only one example of this technology leaping forward.

So this is an example of China using that old playbook and trying to catch up and overtake U.S. technology and When I say this, I'm talking about so much more than just Gen I. This is only one example of this technology leaping forward.

So there is evidence that they did get chips from NVIDIA that may have been smuggled through Singapore. This is according to one government report. And then on top of that, there's also evidence that surfaced that's been published in the Financial Times, which shows that they may have trained their chatbot, their Gen AI with ChatGPT with an OpenAI product.

So there is evidence that they did get chips from NVIDIA that may have been smuggled through Singapore. This is according to one government report. And then on top of that, there's also evidence that surfaced that's been published in the Financial Times, which shows that they may have trained their chatbot, their Gen AI with ChatGPT with an OpenAI product.

So there is evidence that they did get chips from NVIDIA that may have been smuggled through Singapore. This is according to one government report. And then on top of that, there's also evidence that surfaced that's been published in the Financial Times, which shows that they may have trained their chatbot, their Gen AI with ChatGPT with an OpenAI product.

Now, this would actually be against the license agreement agreement.

Now, this would actually be against the license agreement agreement.

Now, this would actually be against the license agreement agreement.

of chat gpt so they would have been breaking the rules in that case but on top of that the other problem here is that chat gpt and most american social media and ai websites are not available in china they're banned ostensibly because of censorship concerns the chinese government wants to be able to control what these ai can say about tiananmen square and the uighur genocide and so forth and so we now have a situation where china is making a breakthrough but the us can't even compete with china on its own turf

of chat gpt so they would have been breaking the rules in that case but on top of that the other problem here is that chat gpt and most american social media and ai websites are not available in china they're banned ostensibly because of censorship concerns the chinese government wants to be able to control what these ai can say about tiananmen square and the uighur genocide and so forth and so we now have a situation where china is making a breakthrough but the us can't even compete with china on its own turf