Dr. Mark Gordon
Appearances
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And when you looked at the actual scientists who did the original work, goes back and tries to reproduce it, 7% failure rate. So there are major publications that have talked about this reproducibility error. I mean, you can go on to Google Scholar or else into Google and look at reproducibility.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Okay, so it seems like the fact that he was reusing the same images, stating that they were new images, so he was stacking the deck in his favor. Right. Because he had a point to make. God, that's so gross. $2.6 billion. Jeez. That's what the budget was. That's the National Institute of Health, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
That's the motto. If they don't publish and have a positive finding, they're not going to get funding for the next project that they have.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, the editors of the journal that he's presenting it to.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I spent 16 years looking at the science behind things that can get into the brain and alter the inflammation that occurs in the brain. The whole premise of everything that I've been doing for the last 30 years has been based upon inflammation in the brain. And the inflammation is what stops all the chemistry and why we develop anger and problems.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
The bottom line, which pharmaceutical company was involved in it? OK, which pharmaceutical? And, you know, that's one of the problems that, you know, RFK Jr. will be generating is that as he finds that this science is 70 percent, you can't reproduce it, meaning that it's maybe not accurate. Right. Maybe there's a little bit of bias.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I don't know if you saw the article, which is called Influence of Media on the Mental Health of America, which used to be called the Trump Derangement Syndrome. But I got so much backlash from having that title. People wouldn't read it because of the title. And it talks about how constant stress from the media is. echo chambers, social media, reading all this bullshit, causes cortisol to go up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You look at the inflammatory neurodegenerative diseases. What does everyone have now? It says a low inflammatory diet. Right. That's what it talks about.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Also, in HIIT, in high-impact interval training and high-impact aerobics, what happens is you can increase a chemical in the brain called brain-derived neurotrophic factor, which is something that helps to improve neuron-to-neuron communication and neurology of your brain. And I don't know if you saw, we have one of your favorite guys, Gerald McClellan.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I don't know if you've seen some of the papers that have come out. He had a stroke in 95 fighting Nigel Benn in London. And during that fight, it was a horrible fight if you've ever seen the- It's a crazy fight, yeah. So anyway, he had a stroke from that and was hospitalized for 11 days in a coma in ICU in London. Gets out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
His sister, Lisa McClellan, refuses to put him into a nursing home, into a hospice health, takes him into the house in Chicago and for 29 years dealt with him. She develops an organization called Ring of Brotherhood, where Muhammad Ali's niece and son, I think, are part of it. And they take care of boxers who are leaving the ring.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
who have symptoms, punch drunk or what do they call it, precox or pugilistic, dementia pugilistic, yeah. And she contacted me and told me about her brother and I looked at stuff and what we did was we set up a fund and we paid for his laboratory work and his initial assessment and we found he was hormonally deficient. So what we ended up doing is putting him onto the hormone replacement
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And to one of the peptides that we use, which is called N-acetyl C-max, which stimulates the brain to produce more brain-derived neurotrophic factor. He's in Chicago. I'm in California or here in Texas, in Magnolia. And one of our docs in Chicago took the lead. I just gave her what to do. He's 20 percent better in four months on the protocol. He's now remembering things. He's communicating.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
He's on the phone. And a boxing journalist, Oliver Fennell, came from London to Chicago and wrote a paper, which is called A Day in the Life of Gerald McClellan, and talks about how what happened and where he's gone. And he's had some improvement. That's incredible. Yeah, phenomenal, 20% improvement.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I give a lot of credit to Rick Perry. In 2022, they had HB 1802, which is the first bill in any state where the state – put money into a research project at Baylor for, it was for psilocybin, is where he started. So it was Rick Perry, Andrew Moore was part of it, along with Dr. Martine. Shout out to our friend Andrew.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No doubt. And it shuts down a chemical that protects your brain called fractalkin, and then it starts dumping all this inflammation and causes loss of serotonin, so you become more depressed. It causes loss of melatonin, so you can't sleep. generates another group of chemicals that induce depression.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Hello, Andrew. And let's see, Dr. Martin Polanco, who I'll cycle back to because the Ibogaine issue is what he helped to develop. So it was also Representative Alex Dominguez who helped to push it through to get the funding for it. And it's at Baylor with a doctor by the name of – Lynette Avril, PhD. She's, I believe, the one who's in charge of it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But recently, you know, we have ayahuasca, we've got ibogaine, we got LSD, we've got MMTA. The ibogaine seems to be really good for addiction. And for neural regeneration, which is what you were talking about, to improvement in the neural function. Downside is the cardiovascular. So it has to always be under a very strict, very close observation. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And the doctor that I talked about, M.D., Martin Polanco, who has clinics in Mexico, uses Ibogaine. And one of our new vets who came on board in one of the other states set up a 508 charitable organization. The eight is a religious organization. He imports Ibogaine from I think it's Chile and gets it here in the States and then sends it to Mexico to Dr. Polanco to do studies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So right now, I believe he has the largest group of studies. And one of the things that...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
really has to be looked at is the compassionate use of these products you've got guys that are coming back from war who everything isn't working you know everything so you have to start pulling the stops out and treat them i mean if you really want them to get better especially when there's real evidence that there's not that not just anecdotal evidence that they work but there's actual scientific evidence of their effectiveness you can there's mechanisms we understand right
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So I think I might have sent you a preliminary paper I'm working on on the neurotransmitters to identify how each one of the psychedelic-assisted therapeutic agents work in the brain. And the science is already out there. So what does it tell you? The foundation for how they work, why they work, and how they work is already there. So why aren't we using it? Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Four years, January 8th, no, January 15th. Was it really?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Okay. So you're basically saying the importance of psychedelics in expanding the visions that we have to advance our culture and society has been removed.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, vigilant states, just like our Army goes through, constant stress.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I apologize. I finally went back and listened to our first podcast for 38 from August 8th, 2012. Damn. That long ago? Wild.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Wild. It was wild. And the thing that stuck out was... So I started this morning with my glutathione because I knew we were going to finish this bottle. Oh, well, I'm not finishing that bottle.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, that's our product. And that is our core product for fixing the guys with TBI. How's the new flavor?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But I think one of the misperceptions is, as you said, and I apologize for that, is that we think it's all due to pituitary gland, but it isn't.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, absolutely. One of the times you're talking about our progression throughout time, back in the 90s, doctors were against vitamins, saying that it's expensive urine, expensive flushing on the toilet. You remember that? My doctor told me that. And then what happened?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And the work that we've been doing, it shows that when you have inflammation in the brain, regardless of how it's developed, whether or not it's IED or slip and fall or as we've talked in the past, even wave runners, ski-dos or skiing or water skiing, snow skiing or going to the range, the .50 caliber gunners.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And then all the science started coming out saying how we needed B12 because our nutrition was devoid, because the soil not being rotated, devoid in the nutrients to feed the plants to give us our...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It is, muscle, from muscle. But talking about B complex, really, you can get it in plants as well. But it's the trace elements as well, the minerals. And without having adequate amount in, you've got to replenish it. And if you don't replenish it, you lose important pathways.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Most of the organic people supplement the animals with quality supplementation food. I mean organic vegetables. Organic vegetables. You know, to be organic, you can't have pesticides on it. You can't have heavy metals. So it has to be nutritionally enriched with positive soil. They might put additives in it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I use chicken shit. Perfect. Chicken shit's great, right? It works, yeah. I've got some great lemons and vegetables.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Not only fertilized, then it became the base foundation for lipstick and eyeliner. Yeah. Batshit was the foundation for lipstick?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Fountain of youth. The bat shit's the fountain of youth. What is it? The nitrogen composition of it is very good for growth of plants.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
What happens is it creates this inflammation that shuts off the ability of the brain to regulate the pituitary gland. So you can do all the MRIs as they do at the VA, and they see a normal pituitary gland and says, oh, pituitary is normal. You've got PTSD. But there's no radiological or neuroradiological procedure that will allow you to look at inflammation in the brain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Can I read the next sentence? Sure. Okay. A little dabble, do you? Curiosity building the nostril-burning von Humboldt took home a scoop of guano to Europe and turned the spigot on agricultural fountain of youth, i.e. he sparked a fertilizer war.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So they assume they can't find any structural damage, that it has to be all psychiatric.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It's pretty wild. Yeah. I start my mornings looking at archaeology. You do? Yeah. I look at archaeology. But the archaeology that I look at in LIDAR is in Europe because I collect ancient coins from Europe, from Italy and Germany and so forth and Spain. And I've seen the photos where they go over and they see the foundation, as you said, in the structures that are man-made structures.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
There's a PET scan that can look for the tau protein.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, tau proteins, hyperphosphorylated tau becomes these NFTs, these neurofibrotangles. Which is an interesting issue. It's been part of my last year of deep dive trying to find out why is it that you develop CTE or the symptoms relative to CTE? Why is it that you develop the symptoms relative to Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or multiple sclerosis?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I think Sting donated a large amount of money to the Brazilian Amazon. There's a lot of entertainers who have donated a lot of money to protect it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And then they'd fuck everything up. Yeah. You have to keep it hidden like your video you were talking about because the – That's the reason why he doesn't want the video to get out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Have you seen them where the ones, the Indians living in the Amazons, they're shooting down the monkeys for food?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
They don't need anything. They've already established a culture of hunting, harvesting, and building their homes or building their towns.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well, it turns out that the biochemistry is all the same. something called beta amyloid, which is the hallmark for someone with Alzheimer's disease. And then these tau proteins, hyperphospholated tau proteins that they call NFTs, that they circulate around the blood vessels and they create this intense inflammation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And that intense inflammation causes loss of blood supply, damage to neurons, and you develop it. So we've had, using our protocol, We have our sixth case of multiple sclerosis that was totally put into remission. It took 90 days to put him in remission. It was a lieutenant. Yeah, it's a video up on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well, my people came from Komunitsa Podilska in Russia. Well, that's connected. Yeah, it was from there, from Siberia.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I can see Russia from there, so I should become Secretary of State.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. I loved it there. It's gorgeous. The salmon fishing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I love that. In my neighborhood, the old neighborhood in Chatsworth, we had brown bears coming in. No, you didn't.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Crazy. Well, waiting was great. Waiting? Waiting. I mean the time, four years waiting to have another chat with you because so much has gone on since last we met.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. We had Parks and Rangers come to our house because one of our refrigerators failed. So we had all this great beef in there. So I had to throw it out. Oh, and the bears found it. The next day, the bears found it. It was in a canister. And they came there. So I took videos of these. what I thought were brown bears coming in. So you're saying they're not.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
The protocol is the nutraceutical that drops the inflammation and replacing the hormones that are deficient that protect the brain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
That's what happened. Well, this one jumped over a six-foot fence. But before it jumped over the six-foot fence, it ended up eating chicken and filet mignon and ribeye and everything. The only thing it didn't eat was the garlic naan. Well, tell you what, that bear is going to be back. It came back three times. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
In the nutraceuticals, there is quercetin. You know about quercetin. It's got DHA from omegas. It has in it glutathione, N-acetylcysteine. It's got B12. That's on one component of it. The other component has B1, B2, which deals with neurocommunication. And then it's PQQ and CoQ10. PQQ is a form of CoQ10. It's a sister. And it's 100 to 1,000 times stronger. But it's what it does.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
On the third time, Parks and Recreation came by with a dart gun to try and put it down so that they can transport it to someplace else.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It jumped over the fence. Yeah. I've never seen a bear jump six feet. Oh, they can move, man. It was 250 pounds at least is what they said.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. And then it jumped into our swimming pool. It was just swimming.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, so what do you do when it's looking at you face-to-face?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
The one that I saw, and I think I might have it on my cell phone, but it was lighter than that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. I personally can't see for myself going out hunting for bears or elks or moose. And I know you do that, but – They're such incredible animals. They're just incredible animals.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It increases mitochondrial function. I know you've had a lot of people here talking about mitochondrial function. And that's a major piece in how to reverse things like neurodegenerative diseases and improve mental functioning. I mean, products like you have, like AlphaBrain, you know, has an effect on improving mitochondrial function. And that's what you want to do. That's a key.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. So you've gone after bears? I've hunted bears before.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
One of the reasons why I don't eat pig that you got after me in the last time we were here. Pig has a lot of parasites.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And a lot of them aren't cooked to the level to kill the parasites, cystocercosis and so forth. And trichinosis. And trichinosis.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So you have to drop the inflammation because inflammation causes mitochondria that produce ATP. It causes mitochondrial dysfunction. So in all those neurodegenerative diseases, mitochondrial dysfunction has been ignored in the past. And you need to address it. So PQQ and CoQ10 are two very, very potent.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So that's the balance that has to be struck. Where was it, Montana, where they had open season for elk or for moose? No. Was it moose? No, there's no open season.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But wasn't there in the last, what, five years, there was an overpopulation of moose or deer or elk?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
When added together, they stimulate mitochondrial ATP production and replication of mitochondria. Quercetin does the same thing. That's why it's so important.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, I freaked out when the bear came to the house.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It was like, whoa. You should. And then seeing this fucking bear, 250 pounds, swimming in my swimming pool, going back and forth. And then the Department of Parks and Rangers came in to try and deal with it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. They said, stop feeding it. I'm not feeding it. I put the fucking, you know, beef into the garbage can because it's no longer, you know, it wasn't frozen. Right. Bear kept on, don't put it there. Where should I put it?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I've got a bad neighbor. I'm going to have to put it into there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No, dress up as a bear to go into a Rolls Royce to destroy the Rolls Royce.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Insurance fraud. They brought in a bear expert and said... That bear would not have gone into the Rolls Royce and done those scrape marks on it. So this guy was trying to get rid of his car? He was trying to get insurance money. Oh, what a moron.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. I've learned right now so much more about bears. You know, incredible.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Teddy Roosevelt, when he did his bear hunting, loved it. Bears are such incredible animals.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Great new information for me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
We have mountain lions where the house is. Yeah, mountain lions. Bobcats. Deer, bobcats.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Coyotes mostly, right? Coyotes were the ones. They were indoor cats, and every now and then they would go out. Right. Gone. Yeah. Gone.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Where do you want to start? A? Z? Anywhere. Anywhere. Let's see. You know, the family's expanding, which is great. All three daughters have been married and each has a grandchild. which is making me feel old. So I've ramped up, stepped up my hormonal treatment to keep me on edge because I want to be around a lot longer to take care of these kids or to be with the kids.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. Yeah, we've had owls where we are. We're in Santa Susana Pass.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And they don't kill you. They can kick you to death. What's the other breed that's, it's not ostrich, but it's in the same family? Castaway?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Wow, look at the comb. Google cassowary kills people. And were they found just in Australia?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. Wow. Well, that's a bird I'm not going to collect.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I was talking to a lady. One lady told you they're not dumb.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And I want to complain. About what? I was expecting to find some elk sticks out in your front.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Jesus Christ. But I asked and they said it's not available.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Fucking scared shitless. Killing horses and shit. Terror bird.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
That's one of its functions. But there are five functions that it has. Quercetin is amazing. It's an ionophore, which is when we talked about COVID and zinc. It carries zinc into the cell to shut down the ability of the COVID, SARS, from replicating.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well, it works with SARS and it works with influenza A and B. It works with rhinovirus and enterovirus gut viruses that you can get during summertime.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And how much zinc with that? 30 milligrams. Okay. I take 30. And you do that twice a day? I do the quercetin twice a day, but zinc, because my levels are where they're at, I don't put a lot of zinc in because zinc's involved in about 300 processes in the body. It's antiviral that we just talked about. It's anti-Alzheimer's because it turns out
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Allegedly. But you believe that they're there. Do I believe? You believe that the aliens are here. I do not not believe. Do not not believe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Ambivalent as to the fact that they – I believe that they're here.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. I believe that there are aliens. Why do you believe that? Why do I believe that? Why would we be the only... people on a planet when there are millions and billions of planets out there. And we've reached a level of technology that allows us to send a ship to the moon in anticipation with Musk to go to Mars and so forth.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
How about there are other people on other planets who have accelerated, who have been there millions of years longer than we have? Why isn't it that they're able to come to us to see what we're doing? We're going out to other planets to see what was on other planets. I believe that there are other people out there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
that the production of the chemical called beta amyloid, there's an enzyme that regulates it, and it's zinc-dependent. So if it's working, it's called secretase. It's called alpha secretase. It's zinc-dependent. Beta secretase is not. So beta secretase takes and makes the beta amyloid that causes the Alzheimer's, the inflammation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So how do you account for the fact that in Egypt and in the Mayan rooms and so forth?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Cubiform bones, the phalanx, they're consistent with looking at human hands.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And with that inflammation, you then start getting the same thing in CTE. So in all these inflammatory conditions, they have the same beta amyloid and cause for CTE, the hyperphospholated tau protein that we call NFTs, neurofibrotangles. Okay. So they're all related.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So you say it's genetic abnormalities so they only have three fingers?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No, but look at that alien. If you go back to the one that was original with the eyes and the face and the size.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I mean – So how do you account for the fact that there are multiple – from the Assyrians to the Egyptians to the Aztecs, Toltecs? Mayans, where they have on their structures, they have imagery of flying saucers, helicopters, on alien. You know, there is a couple with the, they look alien.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So what quercetin does is it increases mitochondrial replication in about seven days, doubles the amount of mitochondria intracellularly. It helps increase and deliver something called IGF binding protein 3, insulin-like binding protein 3. Binding protein 3 is always looked at as being the carrier for IGF-1, insulin-like growth factor, growth hormone.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
X-ray shows it, the capillarium, the space for the brain. What is that thing across his chest? What's that thing? Instead of the sternum, it's their form of sternum. Yeah, I guess, right? Yeah, because the sternum holds our two sides, left and right, together. Maybe it had surgery. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Turns on in the liver the production of insulin-like growth factor, which is the main below-the-neck growth factor for our body. Improves protein synthesis. Decreases inflammation, too.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No, it looks real. I mean, the x-rays that you were showing. You know, the fact that they came from Nazca with all those lines that I know about.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Correct. Allison went there to Machu Picchu. So she was chewing on coca leaves in a candy and so forth. But I gave her Diamox so that she can acclimate. Diamox is the tablet you take to boost your... Cordyceps mushroom is good for that too. There's a lot of things good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
This is a pharmaceutical pill. But, you know, in my mind, knowing that it's NASCA lines and the association of possible aliens and then finding these, you know, these corpses coming from NASCA, you know, you put one and one together and it makes sense that. Sort of. Sort of.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I got it. And that's skepticism that you have for it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It looks suggestive, okay, of it being something that might be real.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And it's our prejudice that says that, oh, we're the only people here.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well in the train of thought on Alzheimer's, you know, they're saying that it's due to the recessive genes Well, if you look at the real studies recently 95% of the cases of Alzheimer's disease appear to be due to trauma and aging and Trauma and aging. Only 5%. So trauma, like head trauma? Head trauma.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
They're putting distilled water on it during the process of dissecting it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
How old did they say that that was? That's a good question. Did they carbon date it? See, that would be the thing to do is to carbon date it to find out whether or not if it's that old, then it should be petrified and therefore it shouldn't look like that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So religiously, I mean, look at from a religious standpoint, what's the impact of acknowledging that there are other species in extraterrestrials? What's the impact on religion here in the United States or here in the world?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You've seen some of the Russian studies where they had aliens who crashed in a flying saucer and they abused the aliens.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Oh, okay. That's cool. Jesus gave him a falcon hall pass. Blessed be those who come from other planets.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Because what happens is trauma stimulates the brain because of inflammation to increase the production of beta amyloid. And it's because they found recently another secretase. What secretases are are the enzymes that convert a protein called APP, Alzheimer's precursor protein. And it's a long protein. And two enzymes go in and clip it here and clip it here. And that piece is beta amyloid.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
They're just 16 months, but they're still fantastic. Unbelievable. I love it. That's great. Absolutely love it. But in the world that I work in, in the medical arena, it's been expanding rapidly. The new administration has a part to play in it, which is great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. If you believe in God, you have to accept the fact that he's on other planets. We're not the exclusivity. Maybe God is the universe. Yeah. Well, that's what they've been saying. God is the universe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
What about the… They're, what, 17 feet tall, 16 feet tall? What's that? The gigantic humans? You know, I don't know.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Here's the problem. Here's the problem. You don't know what is real.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You're right. There's a lot of shit that's coming on the Internet. The last thing that I was reading, not last, but one of the things that I read was they found bones of people that were like. Giant people. Giant people.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
That's the bad stuff. That's a beta secretase and a gamma secretase. But they also have something called alpha secretase. So if alpha secretase and gamma secretase cut this APP, it generates alpha amyloid, which is inert. not inflammatory. So what did they find recently? Something called delta secretase. Delta secretase and gamma gives you beta amyloid.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
It's the calvarium, the size of the skull as it got bigger.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
How do you account for all the people that said, I've been taken?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So how do you generate delta secretase in the body? Trauma, aging. So that's why most of the cases of Alzheimer's disease are inflammatory-based.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I agree. In the subconscious space, you know, the question is, is that when the extraterrestrials invades our space, our psychiatric space? It could be. It gives to us in our brain the perception of everything that we perceive, meaning the alien, the… Maybe even Bigfoot.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But maybe that's what Bigfoot is, right? You think so? Maybe.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
There's a young form of Alzheimer's, and that might be directly due to having had head trauma and developing this delta amyloid or delta secretase disease.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
generating amyloid beta amyloid that creates the alzheimer's disease as you get older 65 years of age and above that is could be five percent genetic but i think what the literature is really speaking towards is that it's all has an inflammatory basis remember trauma in the brain equates out to inflammatory processes. It's part of the brain's ability to try and protect us.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
The balance that obviously you're talking about is the fact that there are so many people who are trying to present the factual evidence that it exists that causes you to doubt it. So, you know, I believe that there's a possibility of all the things that we talked about from Bigfoot to aliens and so forth. But there's a tempered perception of it as being reality that it might be there.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But we would rather deny it as opposed to accept it. Because what happens if you accept it as 100 percent truth? What is the mindset on it?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You want to have physical evidence, but we don't have it. You know who believes in them? Pardon? You know who really believes in Bigfoot? No.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Enthusiasm with facts to back it up or just the large number of people who have stated that they've seen it or experienced it or –
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Absolutely. I tend to be more on the side that they exist until you prove that they don't exist.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, cities where they have their spaceships at the trenches, in the trenches. I've never seen any data.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So those videos that have come out recently of the Navy aviators who have chased UFOs that have gone up into the water and they've seen these large reflections under the water of huge UFOs. I haven't heard any of that.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Remove junk, bacteria, mold, viruses from the brain and also metabolites of abnormal metabolism in the brain.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And looking at the physics of it, the fact that it was able to do a 90 degree change in motion and then down into the water and then coming up. How do you account for that?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, they've talked about dimensional, the fact that those unidentified flying objects, they go into a different dementia and dimension as well. Maybe a different dementia too. Yeah, dementia. They're in a state of dementia.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
With the rate of acceleration... And the ability to change direction. Those are things that are in the reality, in the real world, the physics behind it. As you said, everyone, if it went in that rate of ascent or descent and movement, it would kill everybody inside.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. It's a good question. If we have that technology, then it explains it all. But the question is, as long as we don't.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. It's the antibodies. It's the treatment protocols, the antibodies against beta amyloid. And they found that even though you were against beta amyloid, you were still progressing on to develop symptoms of Alzheimer's disease.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Duh. Yeah. Duh. Yeah. I've seen articles where it talks about cities, communities underneath the ocean in the San Andres, not San Andres fault, what is that fault line called? Not the fault, the... Outside of California? Yeah. No, no, no. The deepest trenches. The Mariana Trench? The Mariana Trench, yeah.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I think I know what his algorithm is. You know what I'm talking about? And I'm not losing psilocybin or Ibogaine or ayahuasca, you know? Normal. Just normal, yes.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I haven't smoked anything or taken any pills. You've been drinking whiskey since. That's nothing.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I took two. I took one early this morning and just took another one because I figured we'd finish the bottle.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Nick, who's sitting outside, he and I sit down and we'll drink a bottle.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No, it's not the Mariana. It's one of the trenches that are out there in the world. Just Google trench underwater UFO. Yeah, that's a good one.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. We've been on this discussion about bears and Mariana Trench and UFOs and abductions and so forth. Fun stuff. Yeah. It reminds me of 438 where we were talking about every fucking thing. I mean, you blew me out of the water with that. I'll tell you the truth. We were there for three and a half hours on the first one. And when I left the studio, because I thought it was in Woodland Hills.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I thought it was only supposed to be like 30 minutes or so.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. But I left and I sat in my car for an hour to recuperate from that first visit with you. It was just way beyond that. Yeah.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
But even before that, the number of results that we're having, the outcome from TBI, PTSD, and what have you, has been accelerating because of some of our testing that we do as well as our treatment. that we've initiated that's changed since four years ago, since last time. What have you added in the last four years? Well, we've added a lot more nutraceuticals, natural products into our regimen.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. They want to see how fucked up we are in terms of nuclear weapons. Sure.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
One of those guys out there knows how to do it. He does it?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No. One of the greatest fallacies is that as we age, we don't need to do anything to reinvigorate our body. Supplements are very important. Hormones are key. Exercise. Exercise is important because of, as I said, about the brain-derived neurotrophic factor. You can increase it to improve brain function.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
This guy out of USC, Caleb Finch, who talked about he believed that the reason for why we age and we die is because we lose our hormones in our brain. And therefore, extremely important. Where's the scotch? Yeah, there it is. That's what you need, more of that. No, I need to clear the throat. Yeah, look at that. I got my voice back. So as you said, you're 57 years of age. I'm 72 years of age.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And I think the reason why I'm at 72 with the level of clarity and functionality is aside from my back, is the fact that I've always, 30 years I've been a hormone replacement, nutraceuticals, getting in good vitamins, so forth, because our body loses it over the course of time. And you need to keep replacing it. And the people who are listening to this might understand that you need to supplement.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You need to be proactive on your quality of health. Otherwise, you start losing it.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
You know, at my age, people say I still have my pecs. I still have my, you know, trimness and fitness. I don't know about general energy. Do you still do martial arts anymore? No, I stopped doing the martial arts. What I do in place of martial arts is I dig holes and put plants in. Which is hard work. Not the other holes. Digging holes is hard work. Yeah.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I remember one time you sent me an email that said, so be careful because I was using a big pike to cut holes in the ground. But I end up with lemons and I make limoncello, pomegranates, make pomegranate wine and so forth.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. And I said... I sent you some kumquats. Did you ever get the kumquats?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Thank you. Did you eat them? Yes, I did. Okay, yeah. High in vitamin C. Kumquats are really good for you.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Oranges, right. Every morning, I have three of them. That's great. Three of them, and it's great.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well, fake beta amyloid data. See, they've been relying on beta amyloid as being the focus. And what they're finding is the treatment that addresses beta amyloid, the antibody against beta amyloid, people are still getting progression of the disease.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
In 23 years, I've been sick 16 days. That's amazing. That's it. I never got, well, let me be honest. I got COVID for 12 hours. 12 hours? 12 hours. Tested twice, positive for COVID. That was a Wednesday. Let's see. It was a Wednesday. I think we were having Yom Kippur. No, we were having Pesach, Passover. And I got sick that night. And 24 hours later, no symptoms. That's amazing. Nothing.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. I think I sent you the ivermectin paper with ivermectin and fembendazole. I have a 76-year-old veteran who was diagnosed with a Gleason 7. You know, Gleason is a grade of cancer of the prostate. And it was a Gleason 7. He went on 12 milligrams of ivermectin every day. for eight weeks and at 12 weeks he got a PET scan done, a special PET scan done, looking at abnormalities in the prostate.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
And his PSA, prostatic specific antigen, when his initial one with the cancer was 12.6, he's now at 5.3. Is that your phone? I don't know. What does this cell phone sound like?
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Let me shut the – yeah, I like it. They keep on trying to get me out of the first grade, first generation into the seventh until it dies.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. Yeah. I don't like the software they put in there.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, my cybersecurity people keep on telling me don't use Zoom because it backdoors into the CCP.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah. That's great. So I haven't used it. So I use Microsoft.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
One of the things that scared me was in the Wi-Fi, they now can go back and using AI, use the transmitted waveform to see who's in a room. Yeah.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
3D representations of the people moving around. Yeah. So I turned off all my Wi-Fi extenders.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Yeah, that's the reason why I only use my cell phone when I travel. Otherwise, I don't use it. People call me and say, where are you? I say, I don't use my cell phone.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Doesn't your friend Musk have a phone that's coming up? No. No, he doesn't.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
No, I still work off of 3 and 4, and I don't update the software because updating the software gives them more access to you. Dun, dun, dun. I got to go again.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
I really appreciate it. I appreciate the fact that you've supported me over all these years in the work that we do with our veterans. And they've been receiving the benefits of the work that we've done. And, you know, stopping the suicide is the goal for the Millennium Health Centers. That's it.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Warrior Angels Foundation's there, but they've melded into, yeah, this is- Improve brain health by fixing the root causes. Yeah, this is Biohack Yourself, and I'll give a minute on it. A family called Lolly Group, and if you were in Washington for the inauguration, the Biohack Group, which is the Lolly Group, which is Anthony and Teresa Lolly Group,
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
They're the ones who put together Biohack Yourself, which has been picked up by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as being their representative for media because he trusts them because all they want to do is get the science out there that's real, not the bullshit that's been thrown at us. So they've been pulled in, and there were 32 of us, quote, experts is what they call us, who participated in this program.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
So what they're doing is really cool because it's presenting the science behind what you've already experienced with us and what I continue to promote for brain health, for well-being, and longevity, anti-aging. Beautiful. Okay.
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#2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
Well, you know that in – there are papers that have been written about reproducibility. Reproducibility is where a researcher does a paper, makes a claim about the results of the science, and then people look at that and they want to go and reproduce it. To prove it, they found that 70% of them can't be reproduced.