Dr. Aseem Malhotra
Appearances
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Yeah, so I think this is something I'm seeing with lots of patients. There's more and more reports coming out. And I think what really needs to happen, Megan, now, there needs to be a moratorium on this COVID vaccine globally. Certainly I know, and I'm sure you've read this, that people who are in prominent positions certainly within the new Trump administration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
I know they've already expressed concerns historically about the COVID vaccines. We don't need to name them. We all know who they are. But I think the one thing that still needs to happen, and I've got to be honest, I think President Trump is a remarkable man in the way that he has come back. He's so resilient. He's exactly the disruptor we need right now to really change the system for the good.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And he's made some really important comments about making sure big pharma companies are accountable. I don't think yet he's on the same page and probably because he doesn't have the full information around the COVID vaccine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
One of the things that keeps getting perpetuated in the media is this, and I'll explain why this is completely false, that the COVID vaccine has saved tens of millions or millions of lives. And the data on which that, that information is based, Megan, it's the lowest level quality of evidence.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
It's not even considered in the hierarchy of evidence-based medicine to the extent where one of the leading figures in the world in evidence-based medicine, a guy called Carl Hennigan at the Center of Evidence-Based Medicine in Oxford, wrote an article saying that this claim is implausible. Not just him. In the United States, you have the most cited medical researcher in the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
His name is Professor John Ioannidis from Stanford. I call him the Stephen Hawking of medicine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
A couple of years ago, he wrote an article in one of the peer-reviewed journals saying that non-randomized studies, so studies which aren't the one which I described earlier with a 1 in 800 figure of harm, he says that claims of them being so beneficial or preventing deaths from COVID, et cetera, et cetera, may be spurious, in other words, fake. So, you know, we need to really put this to bed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And I think if anybody, you know, we have this conversation so that President Trump, and I think he's up for turning because I think he was deceived. He was misled by these drug companies. We need to get a situation where he comes out and says, listen, you know what? We did this with the best of intentions. And it's true, we may have saved some lives, certainly in the high-risk people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
But overall now, the fact that it was given to so many other people at low risk, it's very clear, Megan, for me, it's very, very clear with the evidence that we've done more harm than good here and it needs to stop.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Well, listen, I think we have to confront an uncomfortable truth, Megan. Let's be honest, first and foremost. But one of the things why we need to get this stopped and pulled and we need the president involved is because it's going to give us more information of what we need to do to sort this out. Identify who's at risk so people don't worry unnecessarily.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Identify who may be at risk of a further problem. And then we can use the best minds of science and medicine to actually identify you know, allow research to take place to find the solution, Megan. That's another issue. It's not just like, oh, you know, people said to me, Dr. Mohotra, listen, it's happened. People don't know about it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
I said, no, this is going to be an ongoing issue and we need to talk about it right now so that we can stop problems in the future. One of the things I do, for example, is I, you know, I see many patients who are vaccine injured and
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
One of the definite things they can do, certainly which will help, which is exactly what Make America Healthy Again is about, is optimize their health when it comes to diet, when it comes to exercise, when it comes to reducing stress, because all these things are additional factors that make you more likely to suffer from these vaccine injuries.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
One of the other issues that's emerged as well, unfortunately, is that And it's interesting, you said it's not unusual that you got COVID about a month after having the booster or the second dose, because we now know, and it sounds crazy to say it, and it's not just me. I had an email exchange with one of the world's top immunologists. His name is Robert Clancy in Australia.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And he just thinks it's mind-boggling for him that it's still being used. It causes immunosuppression. We have one of the world's top oncologists, Angus Dalgleish, in the UK, who is actually behind identifying the CD4 cells being involved in AIDS and HIV. He's a very eminent guy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
He's an oncologist and an immunologist, and he's saying that it causes immunosuppression, and especially people who've had boosters and more vulnerable to getting cancer. I've had people who I know, friends of my friends, younger brothers, etc., you know, developing cancer. And it's just, and as a doctor, you know, intuitively something isn't right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And we have the data suggesting that the COVID vaccine has a mechanism where it can do this. Now, I'm not saying this is for everybody. And I think it's still going to be in a minority, but, you know, The problem is we're now in a situation, and I am also equally anxious, having thought I was probably okay.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And as you know, my father died as a result of the COVID vaccine, almost certainly had a sudden cardiac death six months after having two doses of Pfizer, is that we're now in this uncertain phase where is, you know... Can problems develop in three or four or five years times at the moment where we're basically ticking bombs?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
I don't like to use these words lightly, but I don't want to exaggerate the fear, but we need to really have this conversation, not be afraid to say we are concerned.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Not at all.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Yeah, no, of course. And actually their model, in fact, is probably, and this is how business is done, make money from both sides, is that they are now going to, you know, they've invested heavily in cancer drugs for turbo cancers, which are also one of the potential adverse effects of this COVID vaccine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
So, you know, and that's why I, you know, the definition, and this is important for people to understand, We have these big corporations who've got more power than ever. They've become the dominant force in our society, more economic power than many governments, almost tyrannical to a large degree.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
The way to describe them as legal entities and the way they make money has been defined by the preeminent expert Robert Hare, psychologist, as actually fulfilling the criteria for psychopath, psychopathy. Callous, unconcerned for the safety of others, incapacity to experience guilt, repeated lying and conning others for profit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And this is something that I've seen and been very much aware of pre-pandemic. Of course, I had a blind spot on the COVID vaccine, as I had for all vaccines, Megan, because I took two doses myself. But with all the other drugs in the system, I knew that this is exactly how it worked. And of course, you see this confluence of interest with big food.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
People talk about big food essentially drive the chronic disease, and then big pharma give us drugs, which by the way, in general, are pretty useless. That was another conversation that needs to be had
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
When we talk about making America healthy again, and this is absolute fact, most drugs, a large proportion for most of the health expenditure in the US comes from prescription drugs for chronic disease management. Chronic disease management are things like heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, for example, so-called high cholesterol we talked about already.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Most people taking those drugs are not going to get any benefit Because this is another shift in the paradigm, in the conversations that happens between doctors and patients. We talked about statins, for example, that the benefit at best from taking a statin and preventing a heart attack, people who have not already had a heart attack, which is most people taking statins, is 1%, 1 in 100.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Patients are not told that. They're not given an informed choice. But they're all then exposed to side effects. But the good news is, Megan, once this information becomes freely available and these conversations start happening, we can very quickly improve the system. We can get a more efficient healthcare system. We can reduce costs and improve quality as well at the same time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Yeah, I know I get that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And to be fair to Casey as well, I mean, I'm in a very unique position when it comes to the cholesterol discussion because I probably, I'm not blowing my own trumpet here, as an independent doctor, as a cardiologist that doesn't have any link to industry, I've probably done more research and publications and deep dive and understanding of this cholesterol and statin issue than anyone in the world.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And the reality is that once you correct for what we call triglycerides and HDL, you know, parts of the cholesterol profile essentially links to excess body fat and insulin resistance, you know, driven by ultra processed food. There is no relationship with LDL cholesterol and development of heart disease.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
That data was actually already available years ago, you know, at the end of the late nineties, the co-director of the Framingham study, which is where cholesterol emerges, a so-called risk factor for heart disease said that if your LDL cholesterol essentially, you know, was below
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
as an independent risk factor did not become apparent as a risk factor for heart disease unless it was at least above 250 or 300. And most, 99% of people, Megan, don't have LDL cholesterol that high. And then we did further research in this group of people that have got a very high LDL genetically called familial hyperlipidemia that affects one in 250 people. Let's just look at those.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And this is published in BMJ evidence-based medicine period. People can look this up, mean number of scientists. And we found that in people with very, very high levels of LDL cholesterol above 300, for example, there was no difference in the ones that develop heart disease and their LDL levels and the ones that did develop heart disease.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And therefore, that is another nail in the coffin to this LDL theory hypothesis that it causes heart disease. It's basically, I would say, a trillion dollar industry. It's a trillion dollar scam. The statin benefit that I mentioned, 1%, is there from the trials.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Having said that, another caveat, again, Megan, which is what we need to do and change the system with Maha, is that these drug trials have never been independently evaluated. So we have to trust drug companies. But let's just say it is true that it's 1% benefit. That's because statins have an independent effect where they are slightly anti-clotting and anti-inflammatory.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And heart disease is an inflammatory condition linked to abnormal clotting and insulin resistance. When you look at all the other drugs that lower cholesterol or diet, just lowering LDL cholesterol, again, I was involved in this research published in BMDA, evidence-based medicine. We looked at this and we found no relationship.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
So lowering cholesterol per se does not prevent heart attacks or stroke. This is an absolute- What does? Okay. All right. So the main driver of heart disease, the number one sort of risk factor is insulin resistance, which basically is linked to five markers. And that's why I set up this program called Metabolic Health, which is very easy to measure, very simple.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Most doctors aren't having these conversations with patients, which is basically looking at two markers of your cholesterol profile, triglycerides and HDL, so-called good cholesterol, your waist circumference, Megan, whether you have a high blood pressure or what we call pre-high blood pressure, pre-hypertension, or whether you're pre-diabetic or type 2 diabetic.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Now, one in three adult Americans are type 2 diabetic, and 93% of American adults now have suboptimal metabolic health. OK, the good news, Megan, is this. You can optimize this within weeks of just changing diet, cutting out the ultra processed food, minimizing the sugar and the starches from your diet and basically reset. That's what we call a metabolic reset. You can do that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Absolutely. There is no relationship with a consumption of red meat. The most extensive studies have been done, looked in their totality, red meat and heart disease. Red meat, I'm not saying it's protective, but it's a very nutritious food. I tell my cardiac patients, these are cardiac patients of heart attacks. I tell them, listen, cut the ultra-processed foods,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Follow the best components of Mediterranean diet, extra virgin olive oil, oily fish, whole fruit and vegetables. But I'm not worried about how many steaks you eat a week. I'll tell you something interesting. Only yesterday, I had a consultation with a patient. This is a great story, Megan. I'm glad I'm going to share this with you for the first time. This is a guy that saw me almost 10 years ago.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
He comes for a follow-up. At the age of 62, he was diagnosed with severe blockages in all of his heart arteries. He was recommended to have a coronary artery bypass surgery. And essentially told that unless he had it, he's probably going to die within a very short space of time, within a few years. Now he came to me and he said, listen, doctor, I don't want to go under the knife.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
I want to try alternatives. This is my personal preference. I really don't want to have surgery. Luckily, at that point, his symptoms were quite mild, but he had those blockages diagnosed. And he said, is there anything else I can do? I've read your work. Can I go on a diet plan? Can I do a lifestyle change? And I gave him that plan. Exactly that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
I told him, you know, I went through his diet and he was, you know, he was a CEO of a company, if I remember correctly. He was spending eight hours of the day in a car. He was sedentary. He was eating snack foods and sweets all the time. You know, so there's lots of room for improvement. He completely changed his diet. I also found that he was very stressed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
So, you know, I advised him to do breath work meditation. He also was, you know, thinking about coming towards retirement early because of his, you know, his heart issue. And he was wealthy enough to be able to do that. So he contacts me only yesterday. I had a consultation with him and I presumed when he got back in touch with me that he'd done this for a while, but ultimately needed a bypass.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And he was going to come to me and say, listen, I had the bypass and I just want to check in with you and see how things are going, et cetera, et cetera, and anything else I can do. Megan, he didn't have the bypass. He now grows his own vegetables. He cooks, completely transformed his life. He swims three times a week. He walks his dog five miles a day. He's got no symptoms.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And this is nine years after being told essentially he could probably die if he didn't have a bypass operation. That is the power of lifestyle change. And by the way, sorry, the other thing to say, this was without statin. He got side effects from the statin and stopped his statin. That was the other part of the discussion. He's not taking a statin and hasn't taken a statin for nine years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Okay, the calcium score is a really good, useful, validated test that is simple to do. A little bit of radiation through CT scan. Takes five minutes, non-invasive. And what it does is it tells you the buildup of what we call coronary calcium. Nothing to do with diet, by the way. Nothing to do with blood calcium.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
The calcium is basically deposited where there is inflammation and where blockages tend to occur. And you can get a score, anything from zero, which is completely normal to well over a thousand, which indicates there is a lot of furring of the arteries. But what's useful about the calcium score, Megan, as well, is it actually gives you a very accurate prediction, more than cholesterol.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Well, cholesterol we know is essentially useless, but more than other factors, it gives you a prediction of your risk of a heart attack or stroke in the next 10 years. So I use it quite often in patients that have come, have been scared by their doctor saying, you're going to die because your cholesterol is high unless you take a statin. We do the calcium score on them, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And of course, a lot of cholesterol, you know, that the so-called LDL is, you know, 80% of it essentially is genetic. Okay. You're born with it. So if they come to me in their middle age, if their LDL cholesterol has been a problem for them, they're going to have significant heart disease, do the calcium score zero.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
So I can reassure them that they don't need to worry about their cholesterol essentially.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Well, listen, I think everybody can look this up because I was, you know, there's a brilliant executive order from the president, obviously, I think with Robert Kennedy Jr. 's input on the Maha plan. And Megan, it's absolutely extraordinary. It's so comprehensive. They've covered essentially everything. So they're going to look at
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
you know, all of the existing data when it comes to nutrition, when it comes to environmental influences on health, you know, they set up a commission. This was what heartened me the most, to look at how different sectors of our lives, whether it's housing, education, you know, income, how that impacts on your health, and why that's really important, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
This is a conversation that needs to be had in America and across the world. You know, we need to go back to square one to understand what are the building blocks of a healthy society? What does it mean to be healthy? And one of the things that hasn't been discussed enough or ignored, if you like, is that if you look at... I'll give you some figures here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
In the United States, and even in the UK, it's not dissimilar. The gap in life expectancy between the richest and poorest is about 10 years on average. It's huge. Healthy life expectancy difference is about 20 years. When you look at the data, about 80% of that difference can be explained by what we call the social determinants of health or the wider determinants of what means to be healthy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And this basically means having an income that allows you to lead a healthy life, good quality housing. A lot of people are suffering in the United States because they may be certainly through the winter, they don't have adequate heating, access to education.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
If you are in a job, Megan, that is high demand, low control, low pay, you're on the minimum wage, which I understand in the US, certainly pre-pandemic, was about $7.25, then that can be more damaging to health. The stress associated with being in those sorts of conditions, Megan, can be more damaging to health than being unemployed. And what's the mechanism?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
The underlying mechanism is severe chronic stress. So if you have chronic stress over your lifespan, if you're, for example, brought up in a family, if you're a child that is in a deprived family or you're a victim of severe psychological abuse or emotional abuse, that starts to already have an effect on the disease process that will cut your life short later down the line.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
These are the conversations we need to start having. So that's why what's really fascinating is, you know, it's about health through all sectors. So we need to look at the Department of Education, housing, et cetera, and say they, those departments, those, you know, agencies, if you like, they need to be having health at the forefront, you know.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
There's something I was reading really interestingly recently is that Thomas Jefferson in 1809 in an address to Republicans in Washington said, the care of health and human happiness and not its destruction is the first and most important object of good government. That's Thomas Jefferson, right? For me, it's not about big government or small government.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
It's about good government, because ultimately, the politicians have the control over laws to ensure that we create conditions so that everybody, Megan, who's going to disagree with that, has the best opportunity to lead the best life they can in terms of their health. And this isn't just about people who are not well off. During the pandemic, Megan,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
And Boris Johnson, our prime minister, I mean, I commented on this. He got hospitalized with COVID. And I said it's because of, it's likely because of his weight. I said it in a compassionate way. He was after he came out. I didn't say when he was in hospital. And, you know, that became a big story because he was, and he admitted it, obese. And this is a guy who's got agency. He's got wealth.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Right. And this tells us that all of us really are in this because we're affected by this ultra processed food environment. We've been misled about information about cholesterol, about what's a healthy diet. So I think all of this is going to be uncovered under Trump's administration, under the leadership, certainly on health of Robert Kennedy Jr.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
Megan, I think you've hit the nail on the head and that's the elephant in the room. I think everything that underpins what's really driving the root of the problem is the chronic stress. And it comes down to how we live, how we interact with each other as well.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
We know that one of the biggest predictors, I know you're talking to Brian Johnson later, but one of the predictors of longevity and happiness, actually the quality of our relationships, having someone to love and someone that loves you. It sounds very basic, but it's so important. And that mitigates also from the external stresses of life, which are inevitable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
So all these conversations need to be had. And of course, it also applies to a child being nurtured by their mother. I think I always tell people the most important relationship you're going to have in your life, I think, is the one between mother and child. How you're brought up and being allowed to create the conditions so that moms can be there
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking Revolving Door at FDA and Pfizer, and How to Live Forever, with Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Bryan Johnson | Ep. 1014
for their children so they can have a nurturing upbringing rather than being a single mom, for example, working two jobs, trying to make two ends meet in an unjust system where they're not getting paid enough, where big corporations exploit their workers, where you've got a pay differential between the CEO of a company and the production worker of 326 times, which I think is the figure now, which is extraordinary.
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So we have to have a conversation as a society saying, is this actually fair and just? And then you add in, Megan, on top of that, I'm all for meritocracy when people are earning their money doing the right thing, but a lot of these big corporations have made their money through mass deception.
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You look at Big Pharma, for example, and then they don't pay their taxes, and then the government have less money to spend on public services, which are being degraded and undermined. So we have to link it all together.
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Yeah, I think two things to mention there, Megan. Absolutely, I don't think a single American voted for President Trump the second term because of Operation Warp Speed and the COVID vaccine. I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, right? And the second thing is, you know, he's got a great sense of humor and he's a very shrewd man.
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And if you look at the reaction there, I think that was almost reinforcing what he probably already deep down knows. This COVID vaccine is a mess.
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Yeah. So, so a couple of things, Megan, first of all, I know Ryan very well, and he's a brilliant, he's a pathologist. He's a brilliant scientist. He has high integrity. We've spoken at conferences together, solid, solid guy. Uh, one of the top vascular surgeons in the world is a friend of mine in an Island called professor Sheriff Salter. And I talked to him about this as well.
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I mean, these, these sort of long fibrous cuts have been known before prior, but he also feels that they seem to have increased and he's seen more problems. Certainly he feels that there's been a massive issue. with the COVID-19 vaccine, he feels it should be suspended as well. And he's one of the top vascular surgeons in the world. So there's a lot more doctors speaking out about it.
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In terms of what people can do, I think with these particular fibrous clots, Megan, as far as I've seen in terms of data and my own clinical experience, they tend to be stuff that develops relatively early on. So these are the kind of things that you see when people have either had a booster within a few weeks, maybe a month or so after, but usually within a short timeframe.
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There was a separate study which looked at people that died within, I think, two or three weeks of having the COVID vaccine. And I think they found from autopsy studies, 74% was a figure roughly. They could actually directly say was caused by the COVID vaccine. But yes, what can we do? Again, it comes back to metabolic health. A lot of these problems are cardiovascular.
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I talked about insulin resistance earlier. And interestingly, it isn't just about heart disease. After smoking, it's the second biggest driver of cancer. So if we have this mechanism in place to educate people and introduce environmental policies, let's put it that way, to create a healthier food environment, a food environment, food that's affordable,
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then you very quickly will see people optimize their metabolic health and improve it across the United States. And we will see, I think one of the aims of the new administration and Bobby in particular is to show demonstrable data of improvement within two years. That is absolutely doable.
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Thanks, Megan. Yeah, so I mean, very quickly on that, yes, you're right about dementia. Some people describe that Alzheimer's is type 3 diabetes, so same process. So 100%, this is the way forward. I have a lot of hope. I think we've got the right people in place. We've got brilliant men like Jay Bhattacharya, who's almost certainly going to be, I think, the next director of the NIH.
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We've got, you know, Mahdi Makkari. We've got Mehmet Oz. We've got Bobby in there. Anything I can do to help to facilitate it. And I think President Trump will listen.
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Thank you, Begum.
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Likewise, Megan.
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Yeah, Megan, it's such a symptom of a system failure, really, these commercial distortions of health and healthcare. We had something similar in the UK last year. Jonathan Van Tam, who was a deputy chief medical officer, left his government position to get a lucrative job with Moderna. So it's almost things are happening in parallel.
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And, you know, it's a real issue because we know that the interests of these big corporations, these drug companies, is not putting people first. It's about profit. It's profit through manipulation, profit through mass deception.
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We've seen the worst of the, you know, the sort of the greatest failings of the system played out through the COVID pandemic, certainly with the rollout of the COVID vaccine. And it really just continues. This sort of behavior, to be honest, and these sorts of actions just will undermine trust in our institutions and the medical establishment.
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Yeah, so it's interesting because also people need to understand why or how this happens. One of the problems we have with the approval of drugs or vaccines is that the so-called regulatory agencies that people believe to be independent are not. The FDA gets 65% of its funding from big pharma. So what that means is as well for the people- Can you just say that again?
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Yeah, the FDA and other regulators in the UK, the MHRA, get most of their funding from pharma. So the FDA gets 65% of its funding from big pharma. So it's in the interest, in a way you can understand, so the people working the FDA who are approving the drugs, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. But also, if they are friendly to industry,
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they potentially know that down the line, they're going to get offered lucrative jobs with big pharma. You know, government jobs don't pay as well as these big corporations do. So it's a huge bias in the system and it's damaging. It's very, very damaging. And you use the right word. Disgusting is the right word, Megan.
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Yeah, well, that's a really good question. So I think things really started to... I mean, this is part of the economic system we're in, Megan. So up until sort of the 80s, maybe early 90s, most of the funding of these regulatory agencies came from government.
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But because of the economic change, something called neoliberalism that was the brainchild of a Chicago economist who was very close to Ronald Reagan, his name was Milton Friedman. He basically wanted to reduce regulations, if you like, and allow companies to basically have open season when it came to drug development, less regulation, etc.
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And government obviously thought it was better for them to reduce spending not knowing what the consequences would be. I don't think this was deliberate. And over time, what would happen is the drug companies then took over funding the very industries that are supposed to regulate them because it suits their interests, doesn't it, of course, because then they get more drugs approved more quickly.
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And we're now in a situation where we're having to deal with a massive shortage overmedicated population around the world in the United States. You know, it's estimated globally, I've said this before, but people need to hear it again, that the third most common cause of death after heart disease and cancer globally is prescribed medications.
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This is not even to do with the COVID vaccine or the vaccine. This is pre-pandemic figures. And this is just one symptom of why we've got here really, Megan.
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Well, it's interesting, Megan, because I didn't know that. And that, for me, suggests that she had a big role to play in the approval of the COVID vaccine, which we know has been an absolute horror, right? If you look at the evidence now, if you allow me to elaborate a little bit on that, I mean, things keep accumulating over time.
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You know, when the COVID vaccine was approved, let's say Pfizer and Moderna, which was the most prominent COVID vaccines used in the United States, We were under this impression, and it was obviously fueled by all sorts of media, especially the legacy media, that it was going to be very protective, maybe 95% to 100% protective against infection, et cetera, et cetera.
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And of course, that all ultimately proved to be false. But when the original trials were reanalyzed by independent scientists, and this was then published in the peer-reviewed journal Vaccine, which is the highest impact medical journal for vaccines, what they found is from the very beginning,
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Megan, you were more likely to suffer serious harm from the COVID vaccine, mRNA vaccines, than you were to be hospitalized with COVID. And that serious harm rate in the trial was only a short-term harm, because I want to come on to long-term harms in a second. And that was a rate of about 1 in 800.
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And that's on the most rigorous data, that's their own original trials where everything is supposed to be equal in terms of the participants who are in the placebo group, who don't get the vaccine, the ones who get the vaccine, same background, same age, etc. But when these trials are designed, and they were designed by the drug companies, so this is another problem.
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You know, they design the trials, they control the data, they then give summary results to the regulator, the regulator then approves them. But of course, it's in the interest of the regulator to approve them if they're getting funding from Big Pharma. So it's a complete mess. That's just short term harms.
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And then there was an interesting survey done in the United States, which was published in one of the major medical journals. I must say, though, later retracted, not because of error, but because of pressure, because of the media frenzy that happened as a result of it.
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They did a survey in the United States that revealed, according to 57% of people surveyed, felt that they knew somebody, either they'd been severely injured or they knew someone that had died or been severely injured from the vaccine. They extrapolated from that and estimated there may have been in the first year of the COVID vaccine in the United States alone, Megan, 280,000 deaths.
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and 1 million serious adverse events. Now, given the other data we know from around the world, there was a publication in the BMJ by Dutch researchers which suggested the COVID vaccines have contributed to 2 million excess deaths globally. This is pretty horrific stuff. And only last week, you may be aware, Yale researchers published
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new research that showed a long-term effect problem from the vaccine, which is that people who had what we call post-vaccine syndrome or long COVID symptoms like fatigue and brain fog, for example, two years after having the vaccine, Megan, they found in this particular group, they didn't look at other groups, that there was still circulating spike protein in the body, which essentially can be causing damage to the tissues or causing an autoimmune reaction.
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I personally, Megan, and I was pretty okay after the initial vaccine. About a year and a half after the vaccine, I developed psoriasis, an autoimmune condition linked to that depression. And I wasn't sure what was going on. And there's a brilliant doctor in Malibu, a very well-known established gastroenterologist called Sabine Hazan.
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And she did some published research, which is pretty extraordinary and a bit scary, but we need to talk about it, is that she found that Three years after taking the COVID vaccine, a very important bacteria in the gut called Bifida bacteria, it's a very important part of the gut microbiome, it's a good bacteria, after three years went down to zero.
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Now, why that's important is that bacteria is very important for health, It's important for producing neurotransmitters like serotonin. A lot of people might be suffering from anxiety and depression because of a vaccine they had two or three years ago. She called me up and said, Asim, you have the exact signature of someone who's vaccine injured because your bifida is zero.
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I've had this resistant problem for now, coming up to a year and a half. I've still got depression. It's mild, but it's still debilitating at times. And I see other doctors I speak to are saying they're seeing an explosion of autoimmune conditions.
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Megan, if you don't mind me asking, I remember you mentioned the fact that you had some issue that you think was vaccine related that caused an autoimmune issue with you as well.
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Right, okay. And in your mind, do you feel it may have been linked with everything you know about your health?
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But Hugh, the horror West Palm.
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Hi, Megan. Lovely to be here.
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One of the medications that Tony was on that he believed caused him quite significant side effects, such as muscle fatigue, erectile dysfunction, brain fog, really limited his quality of life for many, many months, was a statin drug.
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Yeah, Megan, so really interesting you started with that because, you know, my journey as a practicing cardiologist, as a qualified doctor for well over 20 years, actually started towards the end of sort of 2009, 2010, when I really started to investigate why heart disease hadn't really come down in the way it was predicted to come down.
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You know, by the end of the 20th century, it was predicted that heart disease would essentially be eradicated because of statins that come on the scene. And a lot of what happened around changes in guidelines on diet was based upon this, what we now know is a very flawed hypothesis about lowering cholesterol. So that's where I begun my journey because I was seeing my patients come in
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You know, more stress on the system, the National Health Service, more people are suffering from chronic disease. But patients also reporting a lot of side effects from statins, which where there was a discrepancy between what I was observing in terms of the frequency of these side effects and diagnosing it and what was in the published literature.
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So when I went on that journey, Megan, basically I came to the conclusion that this fear around cholesterol is grossly exaggerated to the extent where one could argue, and there's published evidence for this, that high cholesterol, so-called LDL, bad cholesterol, isn't really a significant risk factor for heart disease.
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But of course, that's where statins came in, because the thinking was if we lower LDL cholesterol, so-called bad cholesterol with these statin drugs, which are, by the way, prescribed, estimated to be prescribed, Megan, to one billion people globally, certainly at least 200 million. And we think at least 30 million Americans are taking statins. it doesn't really have that much of an effect.
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So when you start looking at the actual data on statins, and there's a huge caveat here, by the way, because almost all of the data on statins comes from industry-sponsored drug trials that have never really been independently evaluated.
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And that's something, of course, that comes out in the film where myself and John Abramson from Harvard are trying to get access to the raw data so it gets investigated. Even if you look at that data from the drug companies and break it down,
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the actual benefit of a statin for an individual over a five-year period, but low risk of heart disease, or certainly if someone who hasn't had a heart attack is about 1%, one in a hundred chance of it preventing a non-fatal heart attack and non-disabling stroke without prolonging one's life.
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Now, Tony's case is really interesting and he was quite unusual patient because as you already alluded to, you know, he was, um, somebody that had a heart attack. He was a Virgin Atlantic airline pilot. He was fit and active. He was following the dietary guidelines, low fat guidelines, thought he was doing everything, you know, healthy in a healthy way.
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And his early fifties basically suffered a heart attack, couldn't fly anymore, went back to his previous job, which was a maths and physics teacher. So he's very good with numbers. And then he started to get debilitating side effects, you know, about a year after, you know, taking all these medications as described, or he suddenly felt unwell anyway, initially.
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started looking at the drugs and the details and the benefits, et cetera, thought there were side effects from the drugs, stopped his statin, felt a lot better, and at the same time changed his lifestyle. And, you know, Tony now is in a situation, this is quite unusual for a heart patient who's had a heart stent and a heart attack,
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He's now training for World Ironman, and he's 60 plus now, and he's off all his pills, Megan.
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So I'm not saying this is for everybody, but it's a great example of what can be achieved in healthcare if we actually give patients the right information, if we empower them on the benefits and harms of drugs in a way that is not through coercion, not through manipulation of drug industry who are there to basically make money.
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And the reality is this, most people in the world, Megan, taking statins, are going to get no benefit whatsoever and they don't even know it.
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Yeah, great question. Before I answer that specifically, I said something interesting that I found myself and a number of international scientists in 2016 and BMJ. We actually looked at whether LDL cholesterol had a risk for heart disease in over 60s, partly because the original studies where cholesterol was exposed as a potential risk factor or as a major risk factor for heart disease.
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What wasn't publicized, Megan, in those original studies from Framingham, Massachusetts, that started in 1948 and went on for decades, is that once people hit 50, as their cholesterol dropped, their death rates increased. And we thought, this is a bit unusual. Why is no one really talking about this? So we went back and looked at up-to-date data.
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And what we found, one, was there was no association with LDL cholesterol in heart disease in over 60s. But the most interesting finding was the higher one's LDL in older populations, of death statistically, right? So the question is, how is that possible?
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Well, one of the things that's been forgotten because of all this focus on heart disease and this forward hypothesis is that cholesterol has a really important role in the immune system. Older people are more vulnerable to dying from infections.
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And there's also an association, I must express, and we don't know if it's causal, but there is an association with low cholesterol and cancer, which again is likely related to the immune system. So that just to muddy the waters a bit further, that just lowering cholesterol for the sake of it may actually be harmful. It's not that it has no
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detrimental effect now what is the risk factor major risk factor for heart disease it's a process in the body called insulin resistance so it's essentially over time your body becoming resistant to the hormone insulin and that is driven essentially by food you know diets that are high in starch and sugar ultra processed foods being sedentary and also to some degree chronic stress
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And insulin itself, when it's, you know, raised chronically for a long period of time, or if you're eating a lot of junk food, it directly is toxic to the inner lining of the heart artery. So that's how it causes heart disease. And that's accepted in the literature. Why is it not well known or publicized?
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Because not never been really an effective drug to tackle insulin resistance has then been proven in a trials to prevent heart attacks. And of course, you know, there is no market for a healthy lifestyle, really, for just eating real food, you know, not being sedentary. No one gets rich off that. Absolutely. So that's really the missing link.
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And when I institute this plan with my patients, Megan, you know, the lifestyle plan based upon the best evidence. And I don't say to my patients, don't take statins. I say, listen, this is the absolute benefit, you know, without even talking about harms.
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I mean, harms come in as well in terms of quality of life limiting side effects in particular, like muscle fatigue, like what's only role experience. Most patients, when given that 1% figure, Megan, don't want to take the pill. And I actually write my letter back to their general practitioner and say, listen, the patient has decided they don't want to take the statin.
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I've given them the information and their decision should be supported in keeping with the principles of ethical evidence-based medical practice. So actually what the statin issue highlights is that if we were practicing true ethical evidence-based medicine in healthcare, Megan, we'd sort out the health crisis very, very quickly.
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Yeah, so on the red meat issue, first of all, just for full disclosure here, Megan, in 2013, I caused global controversy when I wrote in the BMJ, but formerly the British Medical Journal, that the saturated fat does not cause heart disease. And the evidence for that is now pretty much conclusive. So that means that eating foods like red meat does not contribute to heart disease at all.
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In fact, I tell my patients, I'm not worried about how much red meat you consume, as long as you're following the principles of what I call a low refined carbohydrate Mediterranean diet. So that is definitely not something that I recommend patients to not do, right? Eating red meat is not an issue when it comes to heart disease.
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And, you know, even on the issues of, say, colon cancer, the evidence is only really there for processed meat, not really for red meat, for real food.
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And the dietary guidelines, unfortunately, in the US and in the UK have really put at the base to tell people to eat, you know, six to 11 servings, I think, in the US guidelines of starchy foods, which is the complete opposite of the foods that you want to eat. Oh, it is absolutely insane because these are the foods that are going to drive all these conditions. It's not just about heart disease.
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It's high blood pressure, which is the single biggest risk factor for death globally. It's type 2 diabetes. They all contribute to also, you know, it's not about longevity. It's about quality of life as well. If you've got type 2 diabetes, you're massively increased risk of depression, chronic pain, for example.
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And then, of course, then you've got the pills to take, which aren't that effective, by the way, but give you side effects. So a whole management really of people's health in health care is upside down. What I do tell patients to do, though, is to adhere to a healthy lifestyle. I use calcium scores sometimes in patients because they're a very good way. It's an imaging.
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For people that don't know this, it's a form of imaging which looks at coronary calcium, nothing to do with diet. which is a marker of inflammation and buildup of plaque or fatty deposits, if you like, within the arteries. And it correlates also, it gives a very accurate representation, Megan, of your risk of a heart attack or stroke in the next decade.
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But what's interesting is, and certainly with my patients and what the literature tells us, if you look at it properly, is that this is potentially reversible. And of course, in the film, First Uno Farm, without giving too much away,
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You know, we end up going to India to meet a cardiologist who for well over 20 years and has published on this has been actually reversing the blockages within the arteries, which most doctors and I can tell you almost every cardiologist will not even think is possible. So he's done that for a combination of lifestyle. But the most important factor from his research that actually doesn't.
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cause the reduction in the blockages which i think is fascinating is actually through meditation and and this can be explained and this is it's really interesting so chronic stress is established as a risk factor for heart disease the same as being a smoker or having high blood pressure or type 2 diabetes okay but most of us are not really dealing with it properly and the process involved is a
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If you look from an evolutionary perspective, acute stress obviously can be life-saving. But from an evolutionary perspective, if we were in a jungle and we're running away from a tiger, for example, when you're under a state of acute stress, the body releases clotting factors and inflammatory factors.
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So that if we were attacked by that tiger, we are not going to bleed to death or it's going to reduce our risk of bleeding to death. Let's put it that way. Now, this is chronically going on in the body at a low grade when people are stressed, you know, chronically stressed. And that's how it damages the heart arteries.
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And heart disease itself, again, for many years was thought to be a fixed issue. You develop a blockage and like a clog pipe, it gradually gets worse over time. And at some point, you're going to have a heart attack. But this is not true. We know now that it's a dynamic process. So it can be reversed, Megan.
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And I think that's really one of the most interesting, fascinating aspects of the new paradigm in actually reversing, not just preventing people having heart attacks, but actually reversing the blockages. And that's where we need to do more research and invest more of our resources.
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Yeah. So it's on a website. Um, the, the website's no farm film.com. So that's no N O P H A R M film.com. So they can download it for about $10. I mean, it was independently funded, very low budget. Um, you know, and, uh, yeah.
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Yeah. So, um, so, so the, I think the If we understand heart disease to be a chronically inflammatory process, which is exacerbated by insulin resistance, then the solution to prevention and managing heart disease is to deal with the chronic inflammation and the insulin resistance. So there are certain components of the Mediterranean diet that have been shown in studies.
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You know, there's not a lot of, unfortunately, nutrition science is quite flawed. But, you know, the studies have shown that they are There are certain components of the Mediterranean diet that are anti-inflammatory. So these anti-inflammatory components come from extra virgin olive oil, oily fish, nuts and seeds, whole fruit and vegetables.
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So as long as the base of the diet is really composed of those foods and you eliminate the sugars and too much of the refined carbs, that means not too much bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, for example, then you are basically following the best possible diet when it comes to heart disease.
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I call it a low-carb Mediterranean diet is the way to describe it.
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No, Megan, actually, that's a great part of the, there's a lot of hope here.
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The, you know, there's evidence that, good evidence that shows, and I've seen this with my patients, that you can actually start to reverse the risk factors for heart disease and many other, insulin resistance, by the way, isn't just about heart disease, Megan, it's probably after smoking the most important risk for cancer as well.
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And certainly linked to Alzheimer's as a, you know, as a prominent risk factor. So if you sort the insulin resistance out, you're probably going to solve a lot of the chronic disease problems in the whole of America. And this is the good news. Within three weeks, there's 21 days, 28 days, you can actually start to reverse those risk factors.
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I've had patients that sent their type 2 diabetes that they've had for 15 years into remission just by cutting out the carbs.
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Listen, it takes more to reverse disease than it does to prevent it. So it depends from patient to patient. But unless you try it, you won't see. But there'll definitely be an improvement. Now, to what degree, we don't know until you try doing this. But certainly with my patients, I say, listen, do this for three to six weeks. Certainly, I think the maximum improvement you will see in terms of
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blood markers, you know, linked to high blood pressure or type two diabetes, for example, will happen, you know, about three months, but it can it can go on for longer than that.
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Well, I've actually written three books myself. And the first book I wrote has a lot of recipes and it's called The P.O.P. Diet, P-I-O-P-P-I, which is based upon the original village, which was behind the Mediterranean diet. But my more recent book, which probably is more up to date and more concise and relevant to our conversation today, is called A Statin-Free Life.
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And in that book, there are recipes and a diet plan and everything else. And it explains the whole cholesterol issue and heart disease reversing as well.
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BMJ.
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Yeah, absolutely, Megan. So medical knowledge is under commercial control, but most doctors don't know that. And just to give you how bad the situation is, 20 to 50% of all healthcare activity in the United States, and you spend almost more than $4 trillion in healthcare, actually brings no benefit to the patient is wasteful or harmful.
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And the reason for this is that most doctors and policymakers are unaware of the poor quality research that drives overuse in terms of overmedicated people, underuse of simpler, safer lifestyle options, avoidable adverse events, waste, and missed opportunities to give the right patient the right treatment at the right time. So that's really the major issue here.
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And the way to overcome this or to solve this problem is to make sure that drug trials are independently evaluated or take things further. I mean, if you look at the history of the drug industry over the last few decades, most drugs they produce are copies of old ones.
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They take an old generic drug, they change the molecules here and there, they patent it, make lots of money, which is, of course, a huge waste. The American taxpayer, American public are paying lots of money for something that could be a lot cheaper with an old generic drug.
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And then, of course, there's the harm issue, because what they do is the results of their trials that they design, they control, they analyze, they publish in medical journals, who, by the way, take a lot of money from industry as well, which comes out in the film, will grossly exaggerate the safety and benefits of those drugs. So no informed consent is truly happening.
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And of course, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if a doctor is making clinical decisions on corrupted and biased information making. At best, it's going to lead to suboptimal outcomes for patients, and at worst, it's going to do harm. And even pre-pandemic, the third most common cause of death, and this is still, when I talk about this at lectures, people gasp, even doctors.
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The third most common cause of death globally after heart disease and cancer is prescribed medications, according to one, you know, analysis. So it's really a massive problem. It's a major public health issue. And what the main focus, and of course, you know, part of this Maha movement and what Robert Kennedy Jr.
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and like, so Jay Bhattacharya and Marty Makary want to do is one of the most important things is to get the American population, you know, reducing the medications they're taking and then trying to empower them and create environments so they can flourish from a health perspective through lifestyle.
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What I would say first and foremost is that when it comes to medical journal articles, you know, remember, there's industry sponsored trials. So if it comes from the drug industry, just don't believe any of it. And that is my view. That's the view of Catherine De Angelis, one of the earliest editors of JAMA.
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With Ozempic, one of the issues with Ozempic is it basically stops you, it controls, you know, it reduces appetite massively. But the issue with the Zempik, which is a great concern, is that when you lose weight, you want to lose body fat. You don't lose muscle. And you basically end up losing 50% muscle, 50% body fat.
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There are all these other side effects that, again, are underreported in the trials that we're now seeing in the real world, including stomach paralysis, nausea, vomiting. I think it probably has a role, Megan, in a very, very small minority of people who have tried everything and are morbidly obese and are really struggling. But I think 99% of people who are taking Ozempic shouldn't be on it.
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I think it's going to do more harm than good. I think it has to be through a lifestyle change.
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Well, it's just basically, this means that the stomach stops working. The peristalsis, usually what passes food through our body basically just becomes, just stops essentially, and then probably hardens up. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, well, those people get admitted to the hospital and probably get put on drips and everything else and, you know, they wait till things start to improve. So, you know, it won't necessarily kill you, but it's not very good. It's not ideal.
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Yeah, it's extraordinary. I think, you know, what this highlights again, Megan, and, you know, when we had a screening in London, the Alessa Square Odeon, there were a lot of doctors that came and they were absolutely shocked with what they heard.
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Because Fiona Godley, the former editor of the BMJ, who's been a giant medical publishing, she basically says, you know, that medical journals are essentially businesses.
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Now, as a doctor that, you know, has been conventionally trained, you know, we were taught that if it's published in the medical journal, the Lancet or, you know, JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, Megan, that it was like gospel truth, gospel scientific truth.
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And nothing could be further from the truth, partly because there's a lack of acknowledgement and realization that one medicine isn't an exact science and it's an applied science, which means it's constantly evolving, but it also means it can be manipulated. And the other side of it is, of course, the medical journals.
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And again, most doctors don't know this are reliant on funding from Big Pharma, and often can get millions of dollars for publishing one article on a particular drug. And the way that works is the drug companies will, you know, you know, do a drug trial, publish it in a medical journal,
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And then it's not just about advertising, they pay the medical journal for reprints of the article that then gets used as marketing material where they can take it to doctors or give it to them at conferences. And one of the most, I think, horrific examples of how this happens or how this works in terms of that whole system was what happened with Vioxx.
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You know, John Abramson talks about this in the film from Harvard. And this was a blockbuster drug in the late 90s that was initially marketed under being better than ibuprofen as an anti-inflammatory drug because it gave less stomach side effects. The drug company was Merck. The original trials were published in New England Medicine.
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And ultimately, it was found that Merck had withheld data showing, even from the beginning, that it increased the risk of cardiovascular events, heart attack, stroke, death, by at least two to fourfold. and ultimately probably killed at least 60,000 Americans. Merck refined almost a billion dollars in 2011.
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But when John Abramson was involved in the litigation process, what he found was that, you know, not only did Merck obviously know about this through internal emails, their chief scientist basically saying, it's unfortunate that these cardiovascular effects are there, but the drug will do well and we will do well.
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But when the FDA wrote to Merck to say, and they realized there was a problem, these heart attacks, for example, and said, you need to put a black box warning on the packaging of Vioxx. What did Merck do? They doubled down on their marketing. And they gave, you know, they paid the New England Journal of Medicine
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know hundreds of thousands of dollars more to get more of those reprints so they could market it to doctors it's just absolutely shocking now horrifying what's the diagnosis here though you see i'm a root cause analysis person i don't want to say this to be inflammatory megan it's actually accurate you know in the book the corporation and the documentary from well over 20 years ago there's a new one called the new corporation um made by law professor joel buchan
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The preeminent expert in forensic psychology behind psychopathy, Robert Hare, actually diagnoses the corporation as an entity, not individuals, but the entity, the corporation as being psychopathic in its pursuit for profit. So callous and concerned for the safety of others, incapacity to experience guilt, repeat applying, conning others for profit.
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And that hasn't changed and that hasn't been challenged or rebutted. So this is the big problem we have is that we've created, we almost as a society in a way, we've allowed the creation of these big corporations to almost through legal means be psychopathic in the way they make money and the rest of society suffers. So until we sort that out at the root, this problem is only going to continue.
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And what they also do in the way that they exist. Yeah.
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Purdue Pharma.
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It's a massive spaceship for the listening audience from Independence Day.
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Yeah, 100%, Megan. I mean, I've known Robert Kennedy Jr. for a few years. We've spoken at events together. We've spoken a lot with each other. I'm very, very impressed with him in terms of his deep knowledge of the issues, his integrity, his ability to communicate. He is very unique, and he is absolutely the right person, in my view, to be leading HHS to sort these problems out.
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Yes, it's a really good question, Megan. Hard one to answer. That's why we need to transform the system. But I think at least what they should do is keep an open mind. And I think what's been really powerful in the last few years has been the growth of the alternative media so we can have these conversations. People are realizing that there's a discrepancy between
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you know, what they're being told, like safe and effective, you know, on the COVID vaccines, for example, CNN, the BBC, Marty Macri said publicly that one of the biggest purveyors of misinformation during the pandemic was the US government. But really, they, in my view, they are just puppets of these big corporations.
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So I think, you know, people just have to just think outside the box a little bit, look at alternative media, make up their own mind. But Ideally, in the long term, Megan, we need to restore trust in these institutions because society can't function cohesively unless you have a strong government that's ethical and medical institutions that are ethical.
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And, you know, there will be a bit of disruption going on before we get to that stage. But, you know, we're in this mess with health care because we've allowed these corporate psychopathic entities to have so much power that they become tyrannical. And, you know, and that level of tyranny is so strong is that the way they exert their powers, even, you know, people like RFK Jr.
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or myself or others who have been speaking out, you know, they will dedicate resources and even use the media to smear us because that's how they, you know, keep their keep spreading their misinformation to people. So it's going to take time.
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I mean, one of the I tell you, just, you know, if there's one website people can go to, which is an independently, you know, an independent of commercial influence website done by very rigorous scientists who want to, you know, people to be fully informed about drugs. It's called the NNT.com website. So the NNT, yes, numbers needed to treat, nnt.com. And actually, there's a really good website.
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And a lot of their, whatever's published on the website actually is published in one of the American family physician journals. And what they do is they break down the data. For example, statins, they will say, if you've had a heart attack, your benefits say one in 40 over five years.
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preventing another heart attack etc and they give a traffic light system about whether overall the drug is beneficial or overall the drug is harmful it talks about things like heart stents which again are massively overused in the united states and other parts of the world that's what i trained in doing so that's quite a useful resource for people for sure they're not sure about the drug they're taking and it goes through many many medications as well and looking at all the evidence combined
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Yeah, Megan. So, you know, I've thought about this in a lot of depth because, you know, I'm somebody that's been a very outspoken advocate of evidence-based medicine. I mean, I've published extensively. I've worked in advisory government roles over the years. And everything I usually advocate for comes through medical journal articles that I've published that have been peer reviewed.
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Usually nothing to do with the drug industry in terms of those articles. They're usually analysis, independent analyses. And just to give people, you know, people can get confused here, but essentially when you look at the evidence right now in terms of the COVID vaccine, specifically I, you know, emphasize and look to mRNA vaccines, so Pfizer, Moderna. People know that the serious harm is there.
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The question is, how frequent is it? And the data comes from what we call randomized controlled trial, reanalysis of Pfizer and Moderna's trials, pharmacovigilance data, what people are reporting on the yellow card system, autopsy data we know now, certainly more than 70% of people that died within a couple of weeks of having the vaccine or were certainly caused by the vaccine, that's been proven.
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You've got observational data and, of course, my own clinical experience. So the serious adverse event rate on the best evidence we have, and this has not been rebutted, to be honest, in any, you know, serious platform, Megan, comes from reanalysis of Pfizer and Moderna's trials by independent scientists. Joseph Freeman is a lead scientist who works very closely with Jay Bhattacharya, by the way.
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You've got Peter Doshi, associate editor of the BMJ. And what they found was that the serious adverse event rate was at least one in 800 at two months. And that means disability, life-changing rate, hospitalization.
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And from the original trials that got approved around the world, Megan, you're more likely to suffer serious harm from the vaccine than you were to be hospitalized with COVID, which suggests from the beginning it was going to do more harm than good.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
But actually, where we are now, and this is, I think the UK government's probably the only government in the world that's published this, been transparent in publishing this information.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
And I think they're publishing it, although it's not been well publicised, but I'm going to publicise it for you now, because there are a lot of good scientists and good people out there whose conscience would not be clear unless they got that information out in some way, shape or form. If you're in the highest risk group in 2024 of COVID, which is basically people over 90, Megan,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
you have to vaccinate 7,000 people over 90 to prevent one of them being hospitalized with severe COVID versus a serious adverse event rate, harm rate of at least 1 in 800, because it's only at two months that they found that figure. And we know there are long-term effects.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
So that suggests that right now, it's at least eight times more harmful to have the COVID vaccine in the highest risk group than to have benefit. I mean, this is absolutely extraordinary. So the question is, why is that not getting fully acknowledged? I honestly genuinely believe most people are well-intentioned.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
Of course, we're talking about all these commercial determinants of health that began for a long time that captured institutions. But the main barrier to the truth, Megan, and I see a lot of very bright scientists out there, people who have a track record of doing things for the genuine good who completely have a blind spot on this issue, it's psychological.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
And the two psychological barriers I've written about are ones of fear and willful blindness. So fear essentially, which happened, you know, from the early on in the pandemic, we had this exaggerated risk of COVID, but also there's probably fear of maybe stepping outside the echo chamber that they're in as well. Fear inhibits your ability to engage in critical thinking.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
But I think the more important psychological barrier that a lot of people can relate to is something called willful blindness. And that's when human beings, and we're all vulnerable to this all the time in some ways, right? It's when human beings turn a blind eye to the truth in order to feel safe, avoid conflict, reduce anxiety, or to protect pristine and fragile egos.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
Now, in personal lives, this can happen, for example, when a spouse turns a blind eye to the affair of their partner. But institutional examples of willful blindness historically, Megan, that you will know about are situations like, for example, Hollywood and Harvey Weinstein or the Catholic Church and child molestation. These are examples of institutional willful blindness.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
I think we're seeing exactly the same thing here because it's faced between the choice of accepting an uncomfortable truth Um, most people will, you know, choose to bury their heads in the sand, but the reality is we have to face it head on because it's not going away. And it's not that everyone's been vaccinated now and it's done.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
Unfortunately, there is good evidence emerging suggesting that, and I've seen this as well, that, um, it can certainly accelerate heart disease, which means many people who had the vaccine even two or three years ago are suddenly going to prematurely have heart attacks or sudden cardiac death. And we're still seeing that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
We've got one of the world's top oncologists in this area who's also been involved in vaccine development called Professor Angus Dalglish in London. And we've got Robert Clancy, one of the world's eminent immunologists, 83 years old now, Emirates Professor of Immunology, top immunologist of Australia, used to work, by the way, many years ago with Anthony Fauci.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
They're both massively concerned with this COVID mRNA vaccine increasing cancer through several mechanisms of immunosuppression. So it's unfortunately not something that's going away.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
Listen, I'm in the same boat. Again, I've had two doses. I've had some issues as well. The first and foremost, the best thing people could do here during this is absolutely optimize their metabolic health. So really optimize your lifestyle as much as you can, because this is a chronic inflammatory problem with the vaccine.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
And if you can, you can probably mitigate it to a large degree through that process. and really everything you can do to make sure your immune system's enhanced, whether that's taking high doses of vitamin C, you know, concentrating on your stress levels, eating real food, all these things are really important. But again, we need an acknowledgement by the establishment.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
And to be honest, I'm hopeful, Megan, because I think the new administration that comes in are going to want to tackle this head on. So we're not that far off that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Mysterious "Drones" Spread, Media Malpractice, and How Medical Journals Became Captured, with Hugh Hewitt and Dr. Aseem Malhotra | Ep. 964
I'd be delighted, Megan. Hopefully next time actually in studio as well so I can actually meet you properly.