Din Thomas
Appearances
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He might be my all-time favorite fighter. Myself and Dean Thomas were there. Not a lot of people were there live. I think it was in Abu Dhabi.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Bro, he hits mitts like a world champion boxer. Yeah. I was going to say, we haven't seen the other guy tested Ilya, but then again, in his opening fight, he got head kicked.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
My biggest fear was that shin break, like what happened to Chris. Even before it happened in the UFC, I seen it in kickboxing, and I'm like, you know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Does Volkanovski have anything else on the radar? No.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He was probably, you know, before that, he probably felt like, you know, I felt it before. I felt it. I've seen what's coming. You know, he took a risk.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You could trust your shins, but how do you know? How the fuck do you know? I mean, I don't know. It was always something in the back of my head when I was throwing kicks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It was dad bod instead of him looking right. I would never take it back in the day too. I, I need my camp. I'm not going to, I would never, cause you peak at the right, you should be peaking at the right time. So you can say when people like, well, you should always be fight ready, but yeah, but that's, that's easy. I said that done. You could always be in shape, but that's not fight shape.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And you don't know that until you're fucking back into sparring.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, I used to be a fatty between shit, too. When you're staying away from the pizza and pasta for two months, you're like, ugh.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
What about when he's retired eventually?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That was a big deal. The way he did that was beautiful, man. Kicked him at kicking range, and I didn't expect Bobby to shoot, but the second he did, Patty's got nice jiu-jitsu.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Winner Moikano. Put him in every one of them guys. I would love to see him fight Moikano. Moikano's been going more with his jiu-jitsu lately.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Kobe's a retard. Everybody's getting their own way. No, but there's certain things. That's his gig. Once you get into fam, listen, the second he spoke about Leon Edwards' dead father, it shows you that he's a fucking piece of shit. Kobe, you're a fucking piece of shit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, some guys don't need it. They don't need that extra fucking whatever it is.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I'm certainly in the conversation. Robbie, he left nice. He knocked out, I forgot who he finished.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
We're going to see some wild ones this weekend.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They're saying he needs one shot. I'm saying Merab needs one clinch. Not to end the fight, but to do enough damage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Some guys are afraid of extending too much energy on a takedown.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And he's not going to. And that same energy you felt in the first, you're going to feel in the fifth.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I'm like, wait, he already did five rounds? Why is he going back? It's insane what he does. It's not normal. And... And again, I think that if he doesn't get caught with that perfect shot, he's a hard guy to put away. And he's not going to stop. He's a little Terminator.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah. Also, the pressure is not going to, he's not, I've already, when he was going to fight the Peteyon, Peteyon, when he had that Peteyon fight, before that fight got on the table, like when they were talking about it, he told me, he didn't totally accept it. Like he was like, there's so much pressure in this fight. He goes, you know, the history between Georgia and Russia.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He goes, this is not just a fight for me. If I lose this, he was so, the pressure was so much.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I can't even tell you. He's repping his country. That's different.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's one of my proudest things. When he took that fight and the way he handled it, he was different in that fight. Even the lead up, he's calling him a bitch. He's dealing with the Russian bully. And so when he won that, That was like the title fight for me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And they're both extremely confident. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I don't even watch the fucking boxing, to be honest. I can't watch it after the MMA. I just watch the fights. It's hard for me. I mean, I pick my spots.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
This is going to be a wild take. I don't think it's going to be a popular take. I think that Pereira is going to mix in a takedown. Really? I think. What?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Dude, thank you for pushing me and planting that seed in my mind. The Matt Serra channel on YouTube. Geeking out with Matt Serra. And I have a good time. It's once a week. You're going to see me, Phoenix Cannavale, doing X-Men movies. Me and Ray Longo talking about our top five gangster movies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
All right, gentlemen. Thank you very much. This is always fun. Good times. Always fun.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You say that to me every week. Listen. It's already been established. Hear me out. Hear me out. Yes, he's... I mean, listen. You don't get more confident on the feet than him, but... He hangs out with our good friend, the great Glover Tixera.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And you see him sparring. You see him mixing that shit in. Is he doing it for shits and giggles? Is he doing it to work his cardio? Maybe. Or he could be dealing with Khalil Roundtree and say, you know what? Let me show them I got something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah. What does the comma mean when he says comma?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You'd rather hear him talk some shit than hear shama.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But Jamal does fire roll first, though, doesn't he? Watch. After he gets kicked.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Jamal throws it first, though, I think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He might be right. He's getting a corner. Look at Jamal. Ready? Jamal. They throw at the same time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
All right, maybe he won't shoot on Khalil.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Hey, you know what we never tried? What? The smelling salts. We got them right here.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
As you guys get older, do you get more emotional? Do you find yourself... I'm an emotional guy. I don't see that. I'm an emotional... You guys don't get all emotional. People think we're toxic. Let's talk.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
In that case, I don't cry at all. You pussies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They do that a lot with the wild animals, like the fucking people who own hippos.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They're not listening to nothing. There's no listening.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You remember that Clint Eastwood movie, fucking Any Which Way But Loose? Yeah. Awesome. I used to love those movies. And Any Which Way You Can. They had two of them. The second one, when they were going to have that fight. And then it's, you know, they heard they're still fighting. And then it's, you know, guys, there are different, oh, let's get on the plane and let's go see the fight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Dude, they're fighting for fucking two hours, these guys.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
We didn't even know what real fighting was back then.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Anytime you get, and we did this in a group text. We talked about Bone Tomahawk. Oh, yeah. Now, this is a movie that I never heard about. It came out in like 2015. Yeah, I saw it on Netflix. I thought it was new and I didn't know so I started watching it. Holy fuck What do you see that good one?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
This guy's the guy from Lost. He was phenomenal. Very good. This movie is now, I get like obsessed with some movies. This is my latest obsession. I fucking love this movie.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
There's certain things it takes a while to get through. I blew right through Shogun.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I'm actually wearing my Marvel ring. It says Marvel on it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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No, no, I'll tell you what I tapped out on. And you know me. I like superhero shit. And the show The Boys, I was in, and there's some good stuff in that show. You ever hear of The Boys? I've heard of it. I haven't watched it. It gets redundant. No, no. But no, this is what I know when I tapped out. The scene where I fucking tapped out. Now, you know in like X-Men, you ever hear of multiple man?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He can make like multiple of himself, like other clones of himself. All right. Now, listen. Listen. I'm not a prude, okay? I could deal with some sex scenes and some freaky shit. But my thing is this. There's a scene. Now, I don't need to see a guy's face in another guy's asshole, even if it's his own body. So multiple men, this little version of him in his thing, they go into a sauna, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
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And I guess this happens sometimes in gay gyms. This is a superhero show? There's a close-up. It's a human centipede. It's a human centipede. Is that an inside of an asshole?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
So now this guy, they open up this thing and they see that, oh yeah, I hope it was worth it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Yeah, that's like Ant-Man inside someone's asshole. Yeah, this is not necessary.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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He's got pink eye because he had his face in an asshole.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Yeah, yeah, me too, me too. You know what's fucked up, Don? They actually did that in the comic book.
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Shows jump the ship, too, you know? Like fucking Cobra Kai.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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And I think there was a spinoff with Daryl Dixon. I didn't even watch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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this guy just got into Game of Thrones like 20 years later. I'm late to the game. I go, dude, the fucking thing's been out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I liked it so much. I told Dean after the first season, I didn't want to wait to the second season, so I got the book, and I ended up reading all five books. I only read five books in my life. Honestly, I didn't even know that. Is that good? Oh, it's fucking great. I loved it so much. I did it on my iPad, and because of my ADD, I made the font real big, so it's like two paragraphs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I'm like, eh, I'm going right through it. Otherwise, I'll start looking at a squirrel. I'll lose my attention. Yeah, on a real iPad. I didn't even know Matt could read and shit. You know, I started with comic books.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It is great best. It's great cuz that's when they weren't slow they get rabid Could be one of those VPN things it could be another country and maybe you sneak around and Maybe right maybe that was a great movie and they come at they're coming out with 28 years later.
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When I was... When I was fighting, when I was champ, I just got married. I was telling you earlier. And when I had the ring on, this was before they had the rubber rings, you know? And guys get excited to see you, so sometimes you give them the hand. They squeeze your fingers. So excited. So excited. I'm like, dude, you're trying to be nice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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You know fights like they have rabies? Marab.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And, you know, people are making a big thing about, oh, he's got to get him down. He's got to get him down. He didn't get... Listen, he gets him down, he's in trouble, Sugar Sean. But look what he did to Jose Aldo. He didn't get him down too much. And look at him up against the cage. All that height, the... The difference in height, the reach, that's at a disadvantage once he gets a hold of him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
So he could beat the shit out of him up against the cage. He doesn't get him down for a round. Now there's a little less pop in his punches and strikes. That length is going to be a problem when he closes the distance, Murab.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Making jokes and always been funny. When he first came to us, the English wasn't great at all. I mean, it's not what it is now. He's always been a sweetheart. Just a sweetheart.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I want to thank you, by the way. I just did my own. I'm doing it once a week. I'm doing my own podcast called Geeking Out with Matt Serra. Thank you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You're a natural for this. Actually, it's out today. The second episode I did, I did one with my buddy Phoenix Cannavale. She's great. We talked about our worst to best X-Men movies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It is on Spotify. And I did two episodes, one with Phoenix about the X-Men movies, and the second one was myself and Ray Longo. My studio's nine minutes from Longo's school. And we did our top five gangster movies. There's a movie that's on our list that I didn't know this fact until it came out, because I don't know why people didn't see this movie.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Did you ever see State of Grace with Sean Penn? A lot of people haven't seen that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I watched it again with my wife before I did the show, just to get it back in my head, because I knew it was going to be on the list. And I wondered why so many people didn't see this movie. So fucking the great Ray Longo brought up a great point. It came out the opening weekend, same as Goodfellas. Same opening weekend. That's why it was fucking under the radar.
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I remember it. It's about like the Westies.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Yeah. So that's the second episode, Me and Longo. So that just, maybe that's a good one to remember.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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State of Grace is great. Another one on the list that a lot of people, a lot of people have seen this because Biggie Smalls raps about him, is The King of New York.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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You ever seen The King of New York with Christopher Walken?
The Joe Rogan Experience
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The heat, the movie, the heat. A funny thing about Al Pacino in that movie, he's over the top in it, you know? She's got a great ass! Big ass! And when I seen him, he spoke about his role in that. He goes, what they didn't, when he goes, what influenced him about playing that character is that he was, the character was chipping off pieces of cocaine, like he was like a coke head.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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And they kind of took that out of the movie, but that's how he was playing him, like all coked up. So it kind of explains it, like how he was so out of his mind.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Especially, I hate those douchebags that always try to give you that fucking, they have a nice squeeze. They grab the tips.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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He said it was, yes, that he was like a chipping off piece of cocaine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I have no clue, but he definitely said it in an interview.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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They did not have him do it in the movie.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Once he said that. You're playing a drunk and we're going to remove the alcohol. It made perfect sense though once he said it. He goes, that's why I chose some of the choices I made for that character.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They gave them Nazis meth. Oh yeah, there's that scene of Hitler fucking watching the fucking games.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Just yelling in German and just boom, boom. Did you see that tank fucking movie? I was just watching it last night since you said that. Brad Pitt. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fucking pretty badass.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
For sure. Even that, like when guys try to over, like they got a real strong grip and they try to fucking give you that squeeze. I just feel, especially my right hand, like I got a fucking bump here from Sean, he caught his head. I had a hoof after I got done with that second fight. Remember that shit, man? It was a balloon.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He's also phenomenal in a movie that a lot of people didn't see called Shot Caller.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Game of Thrones guy. Yeah, the Game of Thrones guy. That's a fucking great one. What's it about? Oh, basically, Jamie Lannister. I just know him as Jamie Lannister. He's like a yuppie guy. He's going out to eat with another couple. He goes through a red light. He gets to a car accident. Next thing you know, he's facing prison time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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and he's like not a guy he made for prison remember that old Tom Hanks not Tom Hanks Tom Selleck movie Innocent Man something kind of like that but he really did the accident next thing you know he gets to the prison he doesn't want to be no bitch and it goes from there and he becomes a hardcore fucking guy they call him money and that's how he ends up but he didn't start off like that Jesus and oh man is it a you know who's in it Keith Jardine really yeah Keith Jardine's a cellmate in there he's great in it oh he's a must book for any prison movie oh yeah oh yeah
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
No one saw that coming. That was a big win. And then he suffered some of the same losses. Well, the Houston Alexander.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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And it's still, like I used to have to double wrap it when I hit with Longo after a while. So when guys squeeze that shit, I feel like, all right, dude, all right, you got me beat with the grip, but I'll fucking strangle the fuck out of you. What are you trying to show?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It's like you in the barbershop, Dean Thomas.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They complain about that fade. Nah, ain't no complaining about my fade. You did a nice, you used to hook my head up on her every week when I still had hair. Yup. That's how we became friends. Cause they brought it on the ultimate fight of four. They brought in some chick cause they know we, you know, we're not seeing our, our fiance's or girlfriends or anything. We have no women. We got no porn.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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We're not jerking off in the same rooms.
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So they bring in some girl to do our hair code.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's crazy. You know what's sad, man? The other day, I just did a camera crew from Toronto came down. They're doing a thing called Dark Side of the Cage, and they want to interview me about War Machine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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and they came out and i did a thing for that and i uh it just depressed me it just it was just it just brought me down because that was a kid did you know him i had him on the podcast when he was that's right when when he was on the show there's some guys that are just evil and there's other guys that i think that if they're the right people around them they could have made different choices and that's he was like a a goofy
The Joe Rogan Experience
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He had issues. He was emotional. He always felt like the stack was against, cards were stacked against him type of thing. But he was still, there was something likable about him on the show when he was on season six of The Ultimate Fighter. He was like a prankster. He did it up a decker and fucking the guy's toilet. He was like a silly guy.
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But I felt that if there was somebody, if he had the right people around him, I think he could have made obviously a lot better choices.
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Oh, no, there's probably both. Yeah. But, like, War Machine, the one guy to show up at his trial to be there for him... And again, you show me your friends, you show me who you are. And it was Phil Barone. Now, Phil Barone is not a good guy. The guy's from Long Island. A million stories about him. Well, isn't he in jail right now? Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Not only did he beat half a war machine, he outdid him. He put his girl in the hospital, beat the shit out of her. And now Barone's in jail for allegedly killing her.
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Murder in Mexico. Puerto Vallarta, I think.
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Oh, yeah. And now that guy, I mean, listen.
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Allegedly. Yeah. But it's brutal, man. So, you know, these guys come, you know, again, but back to War Machine. I don't know. It makes me more like Phil. I always knew was a piece of shit. But. War Machine, I felt, could have been helped. I really do. I mean, what's done is done, but I don't know. It depresses me. Because I thought there was some hope. You had him on the show.
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Didn't you think there was something about it? I never would have imagined that he would have done that. Right?
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I mean, to a girl. I mean, the way he did that, too. I mean, her eye was shut.
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Right. That's what's great about Brady the other day. Yeah.
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He had to weather that fucking storm of a first round. You're getting off a couch. Even if you're in great shape, you have to weather something like that. That could get your endurance down right there.
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No kidding. I'm thinking about doing that shit for my—I'm starting to feel my shoulders, man. You should.
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How long are you in town for? Tomorrow.
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Because I mean, listen, I got a new knee and it's holding up great, but I hear stuff with the shoulders you're fucked. You can't get soldier surgeries and shit.
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I mean, I do my push-ups and I hang from my bar just to stretch the shit out.
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No. My father used to hold pads for me. I had a wooden dummy in my garage. I used to do all my- Wing Chun?
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And I'll tell you right now, if you're doing Wing Chun- as something to add on, that's fun. But the trapping range, the grappling's right there. Anytime I got into a real fight, I'd start with a chain punch and then I'd do my double leg.
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The difference is when you look at two Muay Thai guys get into a street fight, it'll probably look something like you're watching them in a Muay Thai fight. You put two Kung Fu masters in there, Wing Chun guys, it is the worst grappling match you've ever seen.
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I go, that white belt's winning. Guys are dropping for ankle locks. It's fucking horrendous.
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But I feel the Western boxing, like Longo got me, obviously, I had to learn on the job. Because it's different back in the day. Everybody had a specialty back then. When the UFC came out, everybody's like, oh, fuck all the striking. So I was like, in my mentality, I'm like, all right, I got to just close the distance. You can't trade. And then I had to relearn, like, no, no, no.
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Sometimes you got to be in the fire and you have to learn those mechanics and whatnot.
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Did he tip him back yesterday and then he said, Joe, give him a line, give him a call, maybe he wants to be on the show soon? Hey, how you going on there, by the way?
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I like Mark Delegretti on season four. We didn't have set coaches. He was like an assistant coach, and he gave above and beyond for everybody.
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He's still teaching and has a school, right? Yeah, he still has a school. What is it called? Sigitomes. That's what I was going to say. I train with that dude.
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You know? He was letting us hit the pads, take them down, hit on the floor. He earned his cash on fucking Ultimate Fighters.
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You think it's going to hurt me? You have to use the bathroom?
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Yeah, I do threes. You know why? You're making me feel like a crackhead. He got me into the sixes.
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I'm having fun. It's the trifecta now. I told y'all, whatever y'all do today, I'm doing.
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Next thing you know, you're in those shitty Matrix sequels. Didn't have any HCG, and all of a sudden... Remember the Glenn Johnson one?
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Danny Green, yeah. Yo, dude, I'm going to use the head real quick. Go ahead.
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I used to think when there was a submission in Pride and the referee would be like, what would he say? Shot!
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's fucked up. Wait a minute. They took his belt? Yes, they took his belt.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Motherfuckers have chemists out there. Hey, you used to work for American Top Team. Tell us this. Tell us the secrets that they got over in that fucking.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
No one's going to be saying their real weight to begin with.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Oh my God. Oh my God. By the way, great work with Sean Brady. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Sean Brady's an animal, man.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It's bad for everybody. 155 was brutal for me to make. But 165? That would have been great for me. That's what I'm saying. 170, I was small for 170.
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What's the weight? Do they have the same shit in Bellator or PFL?
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And that's genetic. Like, his father has that.
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He's wild. His fight the other night with Gilbert Burns was fucking smart, man. It was impressive. Because even though he has really, really good wrestling, he knew not to shoot his wad trying to get him down. Because Gilbert's fucking... What I love about Gilbert, and it happened in the Damian Maia fight...
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Like 150 sweaters. And that other guy looks natural.
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When I was at my heaviest, I kind of looked like that.
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Is this the one that goes the distance? This might be the wrong one.
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It was awesome. He's used to that tough man shit, man. I fought in that when I was 18.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
is if he's getting out wrestled, the second he hits the floor, right into jiu-jitsu, sweeps, half guards, he's playing jiu-jitsu. They go to play back. He's back to his feet.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And Jay Paul's very smart, man. He gets guys that he's bigger than.
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The only time he fought another boxer his size was Tom Fury, and he lost. Tom Fury? Good fight.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But he's made for it, man. Like, he's made for it.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And it's also risk versus reward. Like if he loses, he's also almost 60. If he wins, fuck, man, that's another great.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But you don't hear about tigers getting loose in people's yards here, do you?
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Whatever happened to the Tiger King? Is he in jail still that day?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That thing was crazy, though, with that kid killing himself by accident. Crazy. First of all, you don't find more white trash than that.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But that's what's so smart about Brady, though, because he was patient up against the cage, and then he waited to the later rounds. He's the younger guy. He's banking on his cardio. Then he started committing to those doubles, and now he's got a better chance of getting more time on top.
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I'll just watch the new Planet of the Apes movie. That king came out.
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From what I've seen, those aren't bad. How's that Alien movie? Did you see that? The new one? No.
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Aliens was phenomenal. Aliens was such a great sequel to Alien, because it was a different take on it, and then the Space Marines, and... Fucking Newton. Fucking Hicks. Hicks was great. Hudson. Was it good? Hudson was fucking great. Bill Paxson? Hell yeah.
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You're thinking Tom Everett's going to be the hero.
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And then all of a sudden he gets taken out. You're like, wait, wait, what?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
There's so many moments in that, though, that movie, when they barricade themselves in the one room, and they have the monitor, and they're like, they're through the wall. That's inside the room. It can't be inside the room. All of a sudden, they look up, and you see Hicks. He pushes up the tile, and you see them all crawling in the fire. That was fucking money.
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And he's doing a new... Is he doing a new Gladiator? Ridley Scott?
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I mean, I know... Oh, yeah, I can't wait for that shit. I know it's coming out. I'm on the fence with that. What, it's a new Gladiator? What? I'm on the fence with it. Why? I don't know, man. How can you be on the fence with it? I don't know. I mean, what he called looks like he's like, I don't know. Is he talking like New York slang? Denzel and the fucking thing? No, man.
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Did you guys ever watch, and I watched it more than once. I watched it at least a few times, the series Rome on HBO. I have the box set. You haven't seen it? I haven't seen it.
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You know what it is? They crammed it into two seasons.
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The budget was super high at the time, and it is a fucking great series. It is. It is very good. Pulio? Oh, they're badass. Oh, my God.
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Oh, listen, it is so great. And even if you're going to YouTube and watch Lucius and Titus just being badass or Titus Pulio being badass, it's just, oh, my God. It was a good series. Such a great series. No shit. I can't recommend it enough.
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Yeah, you go through this. This is only two seasons, and again, I revisit it a lot. Have you been to Rome? No, no. Me and my wife, she's waiting for my stomach to get better. I go, we might as well just fucking go and put a cork up my ass, because I'm not going to.
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And I heard you can eat the food over there, and it's not as bad for you.
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There's no chance. But I understand the fighters, the current fighters. Look what happened to Cub Swanson. I'm all for these guys taking grappling matches, but I'm also for them taking it with certain rules.
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I remember Travis Luter. Some guys are like too smart for their own good. I remember I'm eating raisins in there and he's eating fucking Kit Kats and shit. He's like, sugar, sugar. I don't think it works like that. I'm far from a fucking nutritionist, but I don't think, you know, because I don't like these fucking raisins.
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How did he find his tooth in that motherfucker? So he's like probably telling his corner guy, get that motherfucker in there.
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For sure. Right now, everybody knows who he is. That fucking elbow reminded me. It just brought me back to Weidman versus Mark Muniz. Oh, my God.
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Yeah, Chris. He's fighting Anders soon. Eric Anders. Yeah, Eric Anders. When is that?
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Yeah, I don't see. Chris is in South Carolina now. We don't see him so much. South Carolina Chris now.
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Like, I'm going to fucking throw these things. He's such a beast, Chris Weidman.
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I don't remember him pulling out of too many fights, though. No, I don't believe he ever did.
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Yeah, that's worse than little Ant-Man.
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Dean Thomas, do you want them to use the Trevor Whitman gloves because you feel bad about taking his fucking job? What? Listen, I can't help you. You motherfucker!
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All I know is poor Aljo didn't get the respect he deserves after that Calvin Cato fight, which was a fucking beautiful- Masterpiece. It was a great fight.
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How do you think Ortega... What happened to Ortega last time where he pulled out, like something was up with him? Supposedly probably cutting weight or something.
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I don't think. Are they looking up and seeing shit?
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Yeah. He was explosive, he was accurate, he was well-rounded, but he did the gas tank, I think maybe from making the weight or whatever.
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You know, you got Sean O'Malley saying that he has... Sean O'Malley says he has no loss as he points out that Cheeto Vera thing that it's a fluke. If you look at Marab's record, that fight with Frankie Size was a fucking, I don't say it often, it's a fucking robbery if you watch that. And he was just getting over fucking, what do you have? Not in the moment. He had lingering effects of something.
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And he still went through that fight. I don't give a fuck. Watch that fight. He won that fight. And then the other one with Simone, Ricky Simone, it was controversial because he was in the choke and that round ended. And then he was like half in, half out. And they're like, oh, he's out. And then so it was a weird.
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Because there's so many fights now. It's not like when we were fighting back in the day, it was far and few between.
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Yeah, what the fuck? They stopped the fight.
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You can't say he's out there. Rest in peace, Dr. Sherry. Right. That was the team doc.
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Yeah. So, I mean, so look, you could look at his record and say he got defeated.
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I don't even recognize him. They fucked him in this. So it's like you could look at his record and be like, yo, this guy hasn't lost a fight.
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And if you look at the fight before that, that's the robbery of Frankie Saiz. So you could literally look at this guy and say he never lost.
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That guy's... That striking was beautiful.
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It's from the Fighting Nerds, man. Here he is right here.
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I remember back in the day, we'd be like, it's a new move, don't show anybody.
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Yeah. And he's so long. Yeah, that's a shitty one that gets – I mean, you can't really – you can't use that full force in sparring.
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It's kind of crazy. I never once sparred with the new... I mean, they came later on, like the... the gloves that you could, they're not quite, they're not the boxing gloves, the puffies. The MMA gloves that guys spar in. I always use the 16-ounce gloves because I want to be able to fucking throw. And I grapple in them, but then I get in, I get under the butt, you obviously can't make it.
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a grip but then it's that much easier when I can make a grip so like I get in I'd lose it but it would help my endurance and when I'm able to make grips I'm like ah when they had the new gloves and people are fucking around with them I'm like yeah but now we gotta just now we're playing I didn't have the luxury I'm fucking 5'6 I have to triple jab in and fight like I can't play by just I have to throw so I couldn't throw like realistically with those little gloves so when I see sometimes there's some people sparring I had one of my girls sparring and
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And this girl, Lauren, and she brought in another girl, and they were doing it with those gloves. I go, look, next time you want me to watch this shit, you're playing right now. I'm not going to be telling you to fucking do certain things and throw certain things. It's playing. You're playing. It's okay to play. I like to grapple in them, but we have to fight.
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So, I mean, you know, put on some bigger gloves. We did the same thing.
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If they clock in enough hours, I guess like Max Holloway, whoever else, possibly.
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You have to simulate the fight as much as possible because you don't want to feel that for the first time in there. So we used to really spar.
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The flip side of that, most recently, and it's not the same thing because the guy could be weathered a little bit, Who had that philosophy with Tony Ferguson? Goggins. Goggins put him. Now, look. That's Tony Ferguson after Gaethje. But Goggins put him through a fucking cardio session.
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And I like David Goggins, but I don't think he should have been in the corner. I mean, you got him in the corner yelling from the stand. I'm not shitting on Goggins. I like all the shit. But he's in the corner going, get up, Tony. It's like it's one of those things where it's like, you know, no shit.
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Everybody's always going to be guessing, but even when he was in his prime, he fought Kevin Lee. Kevin Lee got him down, mounted him. But then he triangled him. He did triangle him, but Kevin Lee Mountain, no offense to Kevin Lee, it's not like Khabib on top of you. So, I mean, is he ever surviving that?
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It was like Tony Ferguson. I mean, I think Tony beat BJ's, it's not a good record they have, but as far as how many losses in a row. Yeah. So these guys got to throw these guys' names in Fight Pass, all these young kids, and see them in their glory days, because that's when you should really watch them.
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I'm interested to see him and Eric Anders.
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Some real good fights. Oh, fuck yeah. I can't wait. I love it. I love a Saturday. I hate when there's so many fights on every weekend that when there's not one on, I'm like, oh. You know what I'm looking forward to more than any?
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That landed at the end of that first round.
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And talk about a hero fucking ending to that fucking war. I don't think there's another fight that ended like that.
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A fight that is clearly ahead. He fucking takes that chance of pointing to the floor.