Dan Turrentine
Appearances
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Yes, absolutely. I mean, I thought some Democrats in that hearing, in the Hegseth hearing, completely embarrassed themselves and looked like a Saturday Night Live skit. And it really, I think, forced some Republicans who had concerns to ask themselves politically, do I want to be associated with that or do I want to be associated with President Trump? And obviously they made their decision.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I think the interesting thing here is I think RFK Jr. will get some Democratic votes. In fact, he may need some Democratic votes. And it's going to be a fine line because I think some of the Democratic questions will be, for instance, he supposedly has talked the other day to some Democratic Senate staff that he is open to seizing patents held by pharmaceutical companies.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Pharmaceutical companies and a lot of Republicans don't like that. He said certain things on abortion. So Democrats, I think in this instance, may try to cause some mischief to try to drive a wedge between some Republicans and RFK Jr.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Megan, I totally agree with you. I mean, we hear it on our show all the time. People who voted for him or were going to vote for him love RFK. They believe in what he advocates. They believe in what he has to say. To Mark's point, he's unearthed and champion issues that at one point were fringe that, you know, on his way out the door, the Biden administration got rid of the red dye. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I mean, I don't think that happens if not for RFK. And one of the things that the Democratic Party has to do is figure out how to win back the RFK vote. We drove him out of the party. We told a lot of his voters, you're kooky. You know, you're a conspiracy theorist. There's no place for you. Trump opened his arms, listened to what he had to say, gave it, you know, some added heft. And here he is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And so that's why I do think there are smart Democrats who will vote for him to try to hug what he stands for and his voters.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I always cringe whenever people bring up elected officials teenage years. I mean, I can speak for myself. I would not want to have to defend things that I did in my teenage years. But I look, her problems, I think, are with Democrats are not with Democrats. They really are with Republicans. And when Lindsey Graham this past weekend on TV said,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
head or kind of did not offer his support, it opened eyes. He is usually on Team Trump. He, you know, on occasion will push back a little bit. But the fact that he not only said it was given an opportunity to kind of clean that up and he didn't didn't take it. She clearly has problems with some of these kind of what we'll call traditional national security Republicans.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And it's interesting because Trump ran on shaking up not just the DOJ and other departments, but the intelligence agencies and how he looks at the world. And to him, she embodies that. And it's his own party that seems to have concerns.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Yeah, there's no love lost for her in the Democratic Party. I mean, it's amazing to think five years ago she was a candidate to be our nominee. And now she is she is on the other team. And so I think there are people who will look to get even. I think some of it will just be raw tribal politics. They don't like the fact that she endorsed President Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
that she was so vocal in her support and so vocal in her criticism of Harris and Biden, even going back to the 2020 debate stage. She was one of Harris's toughest critics on those stages during those primary debates. And so I think
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I would be surprised if there are if there is a Democrat that votes for Tulsi Gabbard, even though there are a few senators who are colleagues of her when they were in the House. I think you will see people, you know, whether she's a spy or some of the things that she has said, you know, recently, it's less for more Trump. They will dig in and really battle against her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
No, because I think the party, the MAGA world, will come to his defense, which, by the way, they're not so far doing to Gabbard or RFK Jr.,
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Well, I think for the Democratic Party, the challenge is there is so much, right? It's shock and awe. And the party is really on its heels. One of the things that I get in my inbox all day are emails from Democratic members of Congress. They're fundraising solicitations. And one yesterday caught my eye.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
It was AOC, who, while her politics aren't necessarily mine, I think she is a very authentic, terrific political athlete, just from a pure practitioner standpoint. And she said, you know, a recap of the things that Trump has done to basically make the country worse, in her opinion. Number one was J6. Number two was pulling out of the Paris climate deal.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I found it fascinating because what you don't hear in her email and what you don't hear from Democrats is defending DEI policies in, let's say, the military. You don't hear people criticizing the deportation of illegal immigrants who are criminals. Right. You don't hear defend defending the covid policies from years ago.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
The party doesn't know where to stand its ground and really even what it stands for on these issues. Right. Immigration splitting the party basically in not just half, but like fourths. And so I think, you know, whether it's Iron Dome or or, you know, getting rid of the income tax, there's so much out there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And I think this was part of their strategy that Democrats right now in my lifetime, I've never seen us so quiet and so unsure of not just who should speak, but what he or she would say.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
It's to be determined here, you know, who will step forward for us. I mean, look, it really is an issue because, you know, I'm not the biggest fan of Kamala Harris as a candidate. She's quiet, right? Is she living in New York or, you know, California? Is she running for governor? Joe Biden's obviously gone. The Obamas and Clintons, it's not their thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Nancy Pelosi appears this time around to have stepped even further back, you know, than she was even just a few years ago when Hakeem Jeffries took over. And look, we all know here, Chuck Schumer's, what do they say? The most dangerous place is usually between him and a microphone. And he doesn't seem to want to touch it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
You know, even today, ICE in the Bronx, in his state, in his city, deporting illegals who have committed crimes. To my knowledge, I haven't looked in the last hour. He's silent. Right. Kirsten Gillibrand, silent. She's the head of the DSCC this cycle. So I don't know who our spokesperson is right now, but I do believe people will emerge in the near future.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Yeah, that clip was embarrassing and ridiculous. And I think, look, the frustrating thing as a Democrat is, one, there is some data that the country is not comfortable with business titans in government because they don't necessarily think they're there because they're completely patriotic and philanthropic.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
They think they might be in there to pad the bottom line and it's in their business interest. You lose all credibility to start making those arguments or people won't hear them when you start calling them a Nazi and you start, you know, kind of focusing on on on a hand gesture on the stage. So if he did it every time he spoke and he ended every meeting like that, OK, different conversation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
But as Scott said, to no one's knowledge, is he a Nazi or espouse, you know, hate the Jewish people or he's a bad Nazi.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
It's crazy. And I just again, the party doesn't know where to go. I guess it's like trying to develop new muscles in your body. The old muscles sometimes kick in early on and it's calling somebody a Nazi or, you know, doesn't support democracy has been kind of in vogue, sadly, in my opinion, in the last four or five months in the party. So.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
I just it's maddening because, again, there is and it is fundamentally American. We're somewhat distrustful of powerful people. I think that has served our country well. And so, you know, I happen to believe that Elon Musk probably as he pokes around the government, is keeping an eye on one of his five businesses and thinking like, is there opportunities here?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
And so, you know, that is probably a better line of questioning. And you might have to hold your powder dry until there's, you know, some good examples. But yes, that's, it's embarrassing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Yeah. I mean, look, I think that the fact probably also would love a Tesla factory in Ohio once he becomes governor. Not nothing like some delivering a few jobs once you get elected if he is. You know, the prospects for the Democratic Party in Ohio are pretty bleak.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
Perhaps Sherrod Brown, who is probably the who is the most popular Democrat, but still lost here this last time around, would think about running for governor. I know he's also thinking about running for the Senate seat here because there will be an election coming up here in 2026. And in Michigan, look, count me as someone who was stunned Gary Peters stepped down.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
He just has been voting for some of Trump's nominees. He's been aggressive, raising money. He's been aggressive on television, kind of trying to straddle the line of his state. which were things you would do if you were getting ready to run for reelection.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
So I think this is going to be an interesting battle because if you're Trump, this is a chance to get a statewide office holder in that state, perhaps put one of your own and obviously pick up a Senate seat. And if you're a Democrat, you know, what does Mayor Pete do? He was rumored to be thinking of running for governor. Might he run for the Senate? And there are some talented young House members
The Megyn Kelly Show
Next Deportation Actions, RFK's Nomination Battle Ahead, and New Baldoni Audio, with Tom Homan, Mark Halperin, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 993
that will think about it. And I think this is a little bit of a fork in a road for the Democratic Party in Michigan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
I still believe it very much. I mean, Megan, one of the things we heard all fall that gave me kind of confidence in saying that I thought Trump was going to win is the number of people who would come on our show and say, I'm a Democrat, I've left the party because of how it treated RFK, and I am with Trump because RFK is with Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
And if we're going to win national elections again and get the Senate back, we have got to find a way to win both RFK and his voters and bring them back into the party. And I think there will be some Democrats that will vote for him. I think that his biggest threat really is from the right. I think the fact that, as you said, he is a Democrat.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Merry Christmas.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
His views on choice, his views on the role of government in health care are more closer to our party. that they're pretty aligned with our party and less the Republican Party. And so I think he's going to have to answer those questions and give comfort to some people on the right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Certainly not all Democrats will vote for RFK, but I do believe there will be more than one or two that will vote for him and they should.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Yeah, Megan, you hit something, too, when you said this goes back to kind of COVID. One of the problems for the Democratic Party is we have kind of tried to shut down debate on a lot of stuff when people have questioned things.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
And we've said, oh, the experts, the scientists, like anyone who says, you know, that you shouldn't wear a mask, anyone that says maybe the kids should be back in school, anyone who says, you know, maybe six feet isn't the right number. We tried to shut it down, shame them. You're an idiot. You know, how could you not follow science?
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
One of the things that RFK has done is raised questions that parents have themselves. I mean, you've said it, pesticides, food, the obesity with children. The fact that we are defending the status quo in an era when people are so against, they're so upset, they're frustrated, they feel like their voices aren't heard.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
It frustrates me as a Democrat that Trump and the Republican Party have owned now and taken over, and they are seen as a party that is asking questions, is probing, is willing to change That is that I'd rather be them than us right now. And we have to become more tolerant and accepting of people with different views and ask questions about why and respect what people are thinking.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Yeah, look, if the standard was that no every politician's friends had to be completely clean, there'd be nobody in federal or state government. I mean, it really is a stretch. I think, you know, in my opinion, there's enough questions on Hegseth to stick to the nominee. I think really the question is less with Democrats and with fellow Republicans.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
You know, I think he's struggling with with a handful of them. But I agree with you trying to bring in a security official, a Sherpa, you know, college buddy. To me, that's just a total stretch. And one of the things voters roll their eyes about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Yeah, I mean, look, anytime somebody steps forward in a public nature to make an allegation as serious as she may potentially make, you have to brace yourself. I mean, you are entering the deep end of the pool. People will rebut it. People will question your character, your motives, everything. And as you say, in the Brett Kavanaugh instance, the testimony against him was pretty riveting.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
I mean, she stepped forward and made some very serious charges. And that nomination obviously was kind of teetering for a moment there. Look, I think if you're the Democrats, there are so many allegations against Hegseth, whether it's in this instance, the fiscal mismanagement. You know, is he the right fit? to lead the Pentagon during a time of two wars. It's one of the biggest bureaucracies.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
The procurement process is a mess, let alone the questions about DEI and other things that Trump would like him to focus on. I think you have an obligation to raise all of these issues in a respectful way. And I think, you know, as Mark said, there are Republican senators for whom these are individual allegations are also concerning. And so I think
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
If you're the Democrats, you have to have a witness that's willing to cooperate and be comfortable putting her or in some instances himself out there because you are going to get roughed up. That's not a Trump thing. That's just a political thing. If you step forward.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
No, I will not be. I mean, look, I think there's three things about her here. I think one, you know, much to my surprise, I think Mark, Sean, there's been very little talk since the election about her as a candidate. The fact that she was indecisive, cautious, kind of playing not to make a mistake. Those are the same things that brought her down in 2019 and surfaced again in 2024.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
The second point is candidates that run three times and are successful, like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, they're consistent in their views, in their policy positions. And the country kind of comes towards them, or in Trump's case, they come back towards you. She was the definition of inconsistent, right? She was very progressive in 19. She was, you know, in her telling a moderate in 24.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
What would she be in 2028 or even for 2026 in California? And the last thing is she has no real power base within the party that you would say, OK, this is a formidable block. How do we kind of get through them or or peel off people? You know, she didn't raise one point five billion dollars this time around. The opponent of Donald Trump raised $1.5 million, and that happened to be her.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
But the grassroots is not in love with her. Major donors were not in love with her. And so I think if she were to run, the best thing that ever happened to her was not having a primary, because if she would have had to have picked a moderate or liberal position on issue after issue in a primary, explain why she had changed her positions or not changed her positions,
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
She, you know, last time that happened, she didn't even make it to Iowa. So I think whether she runs for president or governor, she would face a lot of challengers. And I would, you know, not be confident if I were her that she would be victorious.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
I honestly don't know. You know, Mark has asked the same question here recently, and I don't have a good answer. I think there seems to be a lot of finger pointing at Donald Trump. There seems to be an effort by her senior staff to say we ran. I think one person said, quote, a flawless campaign to which Chris Lasavita said, yeah, you can't lose and say you ran a flawless campaign.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
But there is just this kind of excuse that the wins were so strong. Trump had such the upper hand that really there was no way we could win, which I just don't believe and find the data doesn't back that up. I don't know, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
I do believe that in the new year, when people thinking about 2028 start to emerge, that they will make sure that she goes through the barrel, so to speak, that these stories do come out. But for now- Totally agree. I can't believe it, that she's escaping criticism personally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Look, a lot of them are members of the incumbent party. And that right now is Donald Trump. And I think as Mark and Sean have said, in 2016, I think Democrats were first stunned and they immediately turned to anger. Just this idea that he was not legitimate, that Russia had helped him, that there was just no way that he had won or earned the office outright.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Now, I think Democrats are just exhausted. I mean, they threw every single thing that they could think of at him, whether, you know, on the political playing field or the courtroom or, you know, the media was certainly not helpful to him. And he won. And I think there's now just this exhaustion, resignation and in the in the business world. complete acceptance that he is in charge.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
He has maximum political power. Perhaps, you know, no one has been riding into the office with more leverage than Trump has in a long time. And part of that is because Joe Biden is essentially missing in action. I mean, Mark likes to make the joke during a presidential transition, there's only one president at a time. And right now that appears to be the president elect Donald Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
much frustration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
Well, and think about too, Sean, in 16 when they did that, we have a good friend who's a senior executive at Google. Google gave their employees a day off after the 2016 election for a day of mental health warning. Now there's none of that. Now it's just like even the employee base is like, well, I hope we're going down there. Did you see Bezos was down there? When are we going down there?
The Megyn Kelly Show
RFK and Hegseth's Path to Confirmation, and Dangers of AI, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, Dan Turrentine, and Tristan Harris | Ep. 967
So I think now it's not just the executives, but rank and file employees who are resigned and accepting that Donald Trump is the next president of the United States.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Joy Reid Finally Fired, Bongino Joins Trump Admin, and Possible Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep. 1012
Folks, I strongly encourage you to go back and take another look today at the Russia collusion hoax. We had the FBI in conjunction with the Department of Justice, officials in Congress, foreign governments, and intel people fabricate a story, invent a story that could have caused and done serious long-term harm to international relations with a nuclear-powered foe.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Joy Reid Finally Fired, Bongino Joins Trump Admin, and Possible Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep. 1012
It's kind of a big freaking deal. I'm not letting it go. And you listen to me. This is going to be very important in the coming days. I'm not letting this go. I want to find out what happened because it can never happen again. Not to a Democrat, not to a Republican, not to a libertarian, not to any United States citizen. You don't get to do that. Why do I bring that up now?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Joy Reid Finally Fired, Bongino Joins Trump Admin, and Possible Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep. 1012
Because who is the ringmaster of that circus? Yes, Adam Schiff. And no, I'm not letting it go.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I certainly hope that no Democrat would talk about doing that. I mean, as a rule, this is mostly one of those 80-20 issues. James Carville said last summer, or I think it was maybe a few years ago, that sometimes Democrats sound like they're talking at the Harvard faculty lounge and not like a real person in the real world on the streets of any town USA.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think where Trump does stuff like, you know, put George Washington back on an elementary, you know, military base or something like that, there is general support for it. I think when he does something like eliminate, you know, recognizing the Tuskegee Airmen at the Pentagon, I think sometimes people will say, hey, it's a little too far and this is like small and petty.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And so I think generally speaking, though, look, Sean said it is a huge issue in the election. The country kind of voted pretty overwhelmingly on this front. I think he enjoys broad support. And look, I don't know how much you remember. I think it was a year and a half ago or two years ago. The San Francisco school board, several members were voted out in a in a like recall election.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Because the people of San Francisco, parents who lived in downtown, were upset that the school board meetings during COVID were focused on renaming the schools in these kind of DEI neutral names and not reopening the schools for their kids to go back to.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And so the history of Democrats focusing on issues that aren't important to the average American per se is part of what has got us in the hole that we've dug. And so to get out, I think we are best to focus on real issues that impact the real lives of real Americans and not go back to trying to relitigate DEI.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Yeah, I think that look, I think most Americans, I think, do applaud efforts to diversify like a workforce to have to include different people in decision making. Like I think companies, you know, and there's a lot of research that you do get better outcomes if you have, you know, different aspects, different slices of America at the table.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think where there's real objection is on the E, the equity, the idea that you're going to specify 30 percent has to be X and 30 percent has to be Y, not who's most qualified, not who is the best for that position. And I think that's where the party kind of just really lost control of this issue. I think if we just say we're proud of having a diverse country, we're proud to try to include people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
But the most qualified, the best person should be hired or get the admissions slot is probably kind of the middle ground when we think about the future. On Governor Walz.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Well, I think there's two things here. I think generally speaking, President Trump ran on trying to end the war in Ukraine. And I think you're right. Even within the Democratic Party and the Bernie Sanders kind of base, there is a desire to spend, you know, focus and spend money on problems at home, not necessarily abroad.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Although aspirationally, as you say, people would like Ukraine to be protected. I think where Musk gets in trouble is when he makes statements like that. People died because Russia tried to invade Ukraine and they're trying to defend their homeland, right? So I get why they dug trenches and they're doing everything they can to resist a country that's trying to take it over.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think when Musk does stuff like in the interview, say, this is a revolution. We're trying to revolutionize things. Yeah, the public doesn't necessarily love that language. I mean, this goes to like Joe Biden trying to suddenly become FDR, right? That's not what a lot of people signed up for in 2020. And so I think Musk, to your point, is brash. I would never bet against him as a businessman.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
He's unbelievably successful, to state the obvious. But he's rough around the edges. And I think as he wades more into politics, whether it's trolling people on X or kind of forcefully interjecting into politics, you get the good, but you also get bad that I think, you know, you have to be willing to digest. But I think his numbers are coming down.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
He is the wealthiest man in the world with conflicts, you know, from here to kingdom come.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Well, they I actually think they do a little bit. George Soros. Well, that's it. Americans are inherently distrustful of very wealthy people who start getting involved in government. And to your point, Democrats who have had a lot of them in our corner and we loved it. It was damage was done to us on George Soros and other things. So I think, again, it's good and bad with you on.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
So I actually loved it. I will fully admit all the things. Yes. All that. All the things that you guys both said and Mark that she may not be necessarily the best messenger for the reasons that you guys all said. But I think she fully believes it. She she she's throwing punches. And I think the party has sat around frozen since Trump got elected. They're exhausted. They don't know what to do.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
They're questioning, you know, all their strategies and tactics the last four or five years against Trump. And I think to Mark's point, she sits there and she's I mean, Hillary Clinton is, if nothing else, one tough SOB. And I think she's just like, gosh, darn it. We need to stand up and start saying stuff and I'll do it. And look, I give her credit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I mean, she knows exactly what we're saying are all the words about her. And she's not going to be our candidate in 2028. But she is trying to give some some steel to the spine of Democrats to just say common sense as we see it stuff and get in the game and start trying to go at him instead of just sitting around in the fetal position getting rolled.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think they were probably not excited to see the name. They're the reasons that we all just. But I think they probably say, all right, you know, she's getting off the sideline. I think we may get to this. This has been the best week for Democrats probably since August of last year. Kind of optimism going into the convention. There was less coming out of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
But I think they're like, all right, now Hillary's in the game.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Thank you. Thank you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
It could. I mean, we'll have to see. There's going to be a gubernatorial race in Wisconsin here in two years in twenty twenty eight. And, you know, we'll just have to see kind of how it shakes out. Look, what it does do is just give a little, you know, momentum to the party. We just lost. But Tammy Baldwin did win there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I think one of the things that we're really watching for all three of us and Megan, you probably as well as. Elon Musk, in the fall last year, was an asset to Donald Trump. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. He is now going there this weekend. He's put a lot of money into this race. He's been very vocal on X and other places.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
I'm curious if his presence helps, if he is still an asset, or if what we're seeing in polls, that his favorabilities are coming down, his unfavorables are rising, like the Black Focus Group, people have concerns about him. Does he become a liability? And if he does, that will be interesting, right? As we head into more Doge cuts, we head into this bill, the reconciliation bill.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
It will start to say to Republicans, perhaps the ground is shifting.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
Look, Democrats should not ever be on the side of criminals who are illegal immigrants. And I think the issue of immigration has bedeviled the party now for the last eight or nine years. And I think to Sean's point, we have been on the wrong side of common sense issues the last couple months. And so I think the party's probably best...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
path here is to support the crackdown on criminal illegal immigrants and just say, look, the justice system should work this out. We have rules and processes in place. You know, let's let it work its way, but not try to kind of like spike the football and look like we are on the side of protecting criminal illegal immigrants.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
It is in everyone's interest to get them off the streets to Mark's point. Poll after poll, you know, here where I live in New York City, down in D.C., they had the big arrest earlier this week. MS-13 has been terrorizing parts of D.C. where a lot of Democrats live for the last 10 years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Shocking DOGE Findings, Elon vs. Sen. Kelly, and Hillary's Hypocrisy, with Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer, and Dan Turrentine | Ep. 1037
And so where they're doing this, we should applaud Trump's efforts to try to clean up the streets and make America safer.