Cecilia Muñoz
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Yeah. So I'm the daughter of immigrants and the wife of an immigrant. And I've been working on immigration really since I was a graduate student. First as providing services to immigrants. I ran a legalization program back in the 80s, which is the last time we legalized undocumented people in significant numbers. And so I've kind of been doing policy and advocacy ever since.
Yeah. So I'm the daughter of immigrants and the wife of an immigrant. And I've been working on immigration really since I was a graduate student. First as providing services to immigrants. I ran a legalization program back in the 80s, which is the last time we legalized undocumented people in significant numbers. And so I've kind of been doing policy and advocacy ever since.
It's kind of fundamental to who I am.
It's kind of fundamental to who I am.
So I think it's pretty well understood that the Biden administration was slow. I think voters saw the Biden administration as being slow to respond to the situation at the border. I'm obviously close to the folks in the Biden administration. I know they worked incredibly hard.
So I think it's pretty well understood that the Biden administration was slow. I think voters saw the Biden administration as being slow to respond to the situation at the border. I'm obviously close to the folks in the Biden administration. I know they worked incredibly hard.
I think they ultimately landed on some pretty thoughtful policy and policy which turned out to be pretty effective in the end. But by the time they got there, it was too late to persuade voters that they were serious and they had endured, by that point, years of hammering away at how much of a crisis this is and all of the crazy tough ways that Donald Trump was going to address it.
I think they ultimately landed on some pretty thoughtful policy and policy which turned out to be pretty effective in the end. But by the time they got there, it was too late to persuade voters that they were serious and they had endured, by that point, years of hammering away at how much of a crisis this is and all of the crazy tough ways that Donald Trump was going to address it.
And the thing which is uncomfortable about I think both in the advocacy community and therefore uncomfortable for the administration, was saying out loud that they believed this was a thing that needed to be controlled. It is really, really easy to push back on immigration enforcement. I spent a lot of years of my career doing it as well.
And the thing which is uncomfortable about I think both in the advocacy community and therefore uncomfortable for the administration, was saying out loud that they believed this was a thing that needed to be controlled. It is really, really easy to push back on immigration enforcement. I spent a lot of years of my career doing it as well.
It is really hard to have a vision for how enforcement should happen. And politically, for a Democrat in office, it's a world of pain if you stand up and say, this is how we should enforce the law.
It is really hard to have a vision for how enforcement should happen. And politically, for a Democrat in office, it's a world of pain if you stand up and say, this is how we should enforce the law.
But at the end of the day, especially because the situation at the border is unlike anything we have experienced before in our history, I think the public expects their leaders to have a theory of the case for how to do it and to be assertive about it. And I think the
But at the end of the day, especially because the situation at the border is unlike anything we have experienced before in our history, I think the public expects their leaders to have a theory of the case for how to do it and to be assertive about it. And I think the
I have a lot of praise for the Biden administration and a lot of affection for the Biden administration, but I think it was pretty clear that he didn't want to talk about this issue until he had to, because it's a world of pain. But at the end of the day, I think we need to accept that the American public expects its officials to bring order and fairness to the border.
I have a lot of praise for the Biden administration and a lot of affection for the Biden administration, but I think it was pretty clear that he didn't want to talk about this issue until he had to, because it's a world of pain. But at the end of the day, I think we need to accept that the American public expects its officials to bring order and fairness to the border.
And I think if we can be persuasive that we can bring order and fairness to the border, the American public is also prepared to be really, to be generous. And that's why in the Obama years, the comprehensive immigration reform frame won the majority of the public by a lot, had tremendous public support. And that's why we argue a balanced approach that includes
And I think if we can be persuasive that we can bring order and fairness to the border, the American public is also prepared to be really, to be generous. And that's why in the Obama years, the comprehensive immigration reform frame won the majority of the public by a lot, had tremendous public support. And that's why we argue a balanced approach that includes