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Carl George

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130 total appearances

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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Should I introduce myself?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Sound check. One, two. I like barbecue. How about that? Tacos are good, too. I love eating.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Oh, yeah. Do you? I'm a good amateur. I'm not professional level, right?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Backyard barbecue. Tell me about your tools, your tooling, your cooking methods. So my smoker that I have, my father-in-law gave it to me before he passed away.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It was in his backyard for a while, and I was picking up my kiddos from staying at Grandma and Grandpa's house one weekend, and my mother-in-law mentions, oh, I told Catherine, my wife, she's like, I told Catherine that you could have that smoker. And I'm like, what? She never told me that. And my wife denies it to this day. She's like, she never told me that. She's making that up.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I was over there in like 12 hours. I had like four full grown men over there lifting this smoker in the back of my truck. Like, yes, I will take a free smoker. How many gallons? I don't know. It's not huge. Well, four guys to carry it. Yeah. I mean, it was like. 18 gauge steel, thick steel. Yeah, it was very thick and heavy. One of their cousins made it for him for an anniversary present, I think.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

That's cool. So very old, but very good smoker.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I mean, better than paying, you know. It's already seasoned. Yeah, better than paying a grand or two for a brand new one, right? Oh, for sure.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Could you build it yourself? Do you know how to weld?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

You want to build it on site so you don't have to move it?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Yeah. I don't have any other tricks than that other than like you want to use a good smoker. Volume matters. Like you said, I don't know how many gallons this one is, but I noticed that where like you have like a backyard smoker compared to what you get at the restaurants, the real professional stuff. You have a tall stack.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They've got like, you know, like 10,000 gallon or 1,000 gallon propane tanks that have been converted into smokers. And I think the volume makes a huge difference on that on how much you can control the temperature variation. It's huge.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

ongoing barbecue science yeah it's endless in texas the smaller it is the harder it is like i have trouble sometimes keeping the temperature even because it's not a huge smoker it's a decent size but yeah yeah the that's how i think the big that's the the real secret from the big professional joints is they can they can afford the massive smokers doing you know 20 briskets at a time and that volume helps them keep the temperature so consistent like one maybe two you know yeah i mean brisket alone is expensive so i'm gonna afford one to mess it up yeah i mean all right

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And here we are. Good.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Apple. Extra packages for Enterprise Linux. It's an add-on repo. The closest analogy for people that are... I like to compare it to Ubuntu's universe. The main difference is Ubuntu, they enable their universe, their community packages out of the box. You just have it. They're available. But they're not...

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I think they've changed it a little bit with the new Ubuntu Pro stuff, but for the longest time, Ubuntu's universe repo was these are the community things, Canonical doesn't handle these, and that's basically what Apple is for RHEL. It's just we don't have it enabled out of the box, we make it an opt-in thing.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

You have to go out of your way, add the Apple repository, and then install the community main team packages you want. And a good thing to note is Eppel, it's not its own project. It's part of the Fedora project. And the way the whole thing fits together, it's much easier visually with the diagram. So I'm trying to think how I can describe the picture in my head.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

But there's this line going across that's Fedora Rawhide. That's our rolling release. And that's where all the newest stuff goes right away, kind of like Debian SID. But after this point, the Debian analogies fall apart, it doesn't work. We do our Fedora releases every six months. Fedora 41, I think, just got released today. Those branch off of Fedora Rawhide.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

But then that's something like, I think the last time I looked, it was something like 60,000 packages that are in Fedora. Red Hat doesn't want to support all of those in the product, eventually where it gets into into RHEL, Red Hat Enterprise Linux. So it's only a subset. I think roughly around 10% of the Fedora packages, like 6,000 or so, actually make it into RHEL.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY β€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And that happens by going through CentOS, or CentOS Stream, rather. There's a whole bunch of confusion around the name change we did. It's still the CentOS project. CentOS is not dead. It's just a little bit different now.

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