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Caitlin Collins

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Fresh Air

Trump's Plan For Gaza / The U.S. Military's Recruiting Crisis

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Just to follow up on what you were saying about the Gazans leaving Gaza, going to other countries. One, where exactly are you suggesting that they should go? And two, are you saying they should return after it's rebuilt? And if not, who do you envision living there?

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2129 - Did DEI Cause the DC Crash?!

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The Press We don't even yet know the names of the 67 people who were killed. And you are blaming Democrats and DEI policies and air traffic control and seemingly the member of the U.S. military who was flying that Black Hawk helicopter. Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?

The Dan Bongino Show

America Is Back In The World Stage, And We Love To See It (Ep. 2433)

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Okay, I was just, those lawmakers do also represent Democrats. That doesn't mean they were paid to show up if they're upset about this.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Charlie Kirk on Tulsi and RFK's Fight Ahead, DEI vs. Merit, and Elites Against Trump's Immigration Policies | Ep. 997

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Have you ever knowingly met with any members, leaders, or affiliates of Hezbollah?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Charlie Kirk on Tulsi and RFK's Fight Ahead, DEI vs. Merit, and Elites Against Trump's Immigration Policies | Ep. 997

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What do you make of what's happening in the White House briefing room these days, Charlie?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Throws Tantrum as Bad News Grows

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How long would that CR go, do you believe?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Throws Tantrum as Bad News Grows

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Well, you just talked about how important the work that Elon Musk is doing is. If you pass a continuing resolution, won't that just refund all the programs that he says he's cutting that are full of waste, fraud, and abuse?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Throws Tantrum as Bad News Grows

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The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Gets Shut Down as Dems Finally Go Nuclear

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it's like nazi germany play this clip into this and what we do know is that there's a lot of people that still remain in the database but as far as people who are actually getting payments it was 44 000 who got payments according to an audit that was done in 2020 how many millions there's Tens of millions. So when they say tens of millions, that would be a third of the world's social security.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Gets Shut Down as Dems Finally Go Nuclear

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This is what we are dealing with.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Gets Shut Down as Dems Finally Go Nuclear

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That's what you think they're ultimately trying to do. Yeah.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Gets Shut Down as Dems Finally Go Nuclear

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So if he's technically, if he's running the show but not on paper, as they essentially argue, but you say in practice, he basically is, you're a co-goal branch of government as a senator on Capitol Hill. Are we?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Gets Shut Down as Dems Finally Go Nuclear

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Do you feel that you have oversight when it comes to what Elon Musk is doing? No, of course not.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Gets Instant Karma as His Plans Crash

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of America. So it's great to have you here tonight, sir. The tariff so far, I wonder for you directly, what is the impact that you're seeing? How could you sum up how much your job has changed because of the policies coming out of the White House tonight?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Gets Instant Karma as His Plans Crash

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You have none at your port right now?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Gets Instant Karma as His Plans Crash

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And that's because just nothing is being shipped over? I mean, that's pretty remarkable.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Has Disastrous Public Event Defying SCOTUS

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uh questions and potentially pharmaceuticals we're going to do we have we don't make our own drugs our own pharmaceuticals we don't make our own drugs anymore the drug companies are in ireland and they're in lots of other places china and all i have to do is impose

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Has Disastrous Public Event Defying SCOTUS

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Do you plan to ask President Bukele to help return the man who your administration says was mistakenly deported? The man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador?

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Has Disastrous Public Event Defying SCOTUS

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Well, Mr. President, you said that if the Supreme Court said someone needed to be returned, that you would abide by that. You said that on Air Force One just a few days ago. And they said that it must be facilitated.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Has Disastrous Public Event Defying SCOTUS

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So you don't plan to ask for our help to get him back?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Did not believe that he he had the political power that we now, you know, his biggest critics will acknowledge that he has talked to any Democrat and they'll acknowledge Trump has the firmest grip on the Republican Party that anyone has had in decades. I think right now how people are covering his second term in the last eight weeks so far in terms of.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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fact-checking his speeches, how people ask questions, and just how they conduct that. I do think maybe it's not perfect. I would never say that. I think we can always do better. But I do think that people have gotten much better at covering him.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I certainly did not think that it would be where it is now. Someone actually sent me a picture the other day from, like, 2016 when we were in The Daily Caller newsroom. And it was just so funny to go back and look at, like, one, I just look so young, but also just to think of all the things that I've...

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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reported on and experienced since then and grown so much as a reporter is remarkable to look at. And it's around this time, eight years ago, that I got my job at CNN. So I'm also kind of more reflective in that sense as well. But also I was on the campaign trail in 2016 with The Daily Caller and we would go out.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Tucker thought it was important for us to go to caucuses and primaries and to kind of see all that stuff up close, which I had never done before. And so I think I was 24 or 23 at the time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And so that was actually really helpful to me because when I started covering Trump, I had just a better understanding of that orbit around him and the people that were surrounding themselves with him now and what that looked like. And it actually has been really beneficial to me, I think, as I've been covering him for the last eight years. Yeah.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Well, on just the right in general, I think they're emboldened by Trump's win. Tucker obviously was running the Daily Caller when I was there.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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He worked at Fox, but he didn't have a primetime show and wasn't the king of cable as he became and had TV that the White House felt was must-see television because whatever he was talking about that night in his monologue, Trump would likely be talking about the next day. That's what I heard from senior staff in the White House the last time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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He is someone who has worked at every cable outlet, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC throughout his career, and now is in this moment using his influence in a different way. And I think that is something that I've been watching as well with Trump is his moving away from the traditional, you know, kind of Rupert Murdoch-esque level of influence to the Elon Musk, Joe Rogan,

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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more right-wing podcasters kind of level of influence. We saw that during the campaign, which I thought was fascinating because I think if Rupert Murdoch had called Trump, as he did this time in 2016, and said, you should pick this person as your vice president, Trump probably would have picked them. But he did that this time and said, you should pick Doug Burgum, I think.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Maybe not explicitly, but this is what we were told. And Trump went with J.D. Vance. And I just thought that really said a lot about who Trump is listening to and how that landscape shift has even made it into his inner circle.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I was nervous, less because of the ideology, because I'm not ideological. Like I've always been a reporter and that has always been kind of my like driving force. And CNN is also just massive. But so quickly I realized, you know, these people only are interested in what I'm reporting. They don't care like where I came from. They're like, how can you use that in your sources?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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to bring scoops here and to get reporting and to do a really good live shot. And that was actually really refreshing to me because I was bracing for people to maybe treat me differently when I started at CNN. And I remember like the announcement, people were like, what?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And it just, you know, within weeks of starting at CNN, I realized how helpful it was and that the sheer size of it was big, but also the resources were really helpful.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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No, because I think actually it helped because they felt, you know, from their view, they had someone who kind of understood them. And a bigger platform. Well, that worked at CNN. And maybe they didn't have a lot of relationships with people there.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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And also in the Trump White House, you know, the front pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Journal and cable news is like where his attention goes. And so people would bring stuff to TV reporters because they wanted to get it on TV. Yeah.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I'm still a human, obviously, like I have lived experiences and thoughts and views on things. But I don't think that I have strong ideological opinions when I go into a briefing or a press conference on certain things. And what I want to do is here's the reporting. Here it is.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And this is, you know, by apolitical and not biased, that doesn't mean that you're just saying it very mundane and straightforward. I'm saying here's the context and here's, you know, if you're being bullshitted, here's the answer to that. And you take with that what you will. You form your own opinion off of that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Certainly, it's a very different operating environment than I think covering Biden or covering any other president, because they're much more in your face and will publicly say whatever. But I think, you know, as you're approaching that, you know, when you have these personal relationships with people, and a lot of them, again, I've known and reported on for eight years now, my...

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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perception, is they're much more hostile publicly than they are privately. And I think that speaks to Trump himself. I mean, he is that way as well. He's very critical publicly, but if he's doing it off the record or he'll come back to talk to the media, his view is different and his attitude is different. Now, does that mean they love us and they're telling us everything behind the scenes? No.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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A lot of what you're doing as a reporter is trying to discern what's real, what's someone trying to knife somebody else, and what's the most accurate version of events that happened behind closed doors.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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That collision happened right before my show. And so we were the first show to cover it, really getting an understanding. That was when we found out that there were a lot of humans on board and probably none of them were alive. And we stayed on air till 2 a.m. that morning covering it. I got home, I woke up, and Trump was calling a press conference.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And so, you know, people's bodies were still being pulled out of the river. And a lot of their loved ones that I had been like talking to or texting with, they were still very much in the middle of that. And so for Trump to come out and immediately start blaming something when the investigation was hours old, I think those are moments where you have to have real clarity as a reporter of like...

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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what are the people watching this feeling and what is important to be called out and kind of say what everyone's thinking? And that was what I thought I did in that moment. As far as Trump, you know, I think he's someone who seeks the validation of the press as much as he criticizes them publicly. And so, you know, it doesn't really bother me when he gets upset at my question because...

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Our job is to ask the questions. He can respond however he wants to respond. That is his prerogative. And it shouldn't influence really what you're asking or how you're asking it, in my view.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Yeah, I don't think it's falling apart just yet. I think people are, their habits and attitudes are changing in terms of how they get their news. When there's a debate, when a war breaks out, when there's a plane crash, when there's something like that, or, you know, federal workers are being fired by the hundreds and thousands, people do tune in and they want to watch that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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But I do think people are changing their habits. And I see this because I have a little brother who's 21 and he watches CNN on his phone or he'll like see my Instagram videos with my reporting from that day or my tweets. And that's how he gets the news. He's not watching the show every single night. But I think it's like, you know, just meeting people where they are.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And I think it's our bosses' jobs to figure that out and how we get there. Luckily, it's not my job. But I don't think that's a bad thing. I think to adapt is natural.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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There's just so much to look through with Trump because he doesn't really sleep that much. You know, you wake up to a Truth Social post from him about how he's voiding all the pardons that President Biden issued. I do look at Truth Social as one of my first stops just to see what he has said. Then I'll look at my email.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Thank you for having me.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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CNN gets a ton of overnight email because we have so many international alerts. But the benefit of being on TV until 10 p.m. Eastern is... You know, there's not a ton that I miss overnight anymore, like before there used to be. But because I work so late that I don't really miss that much, if that makes sense.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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A lot of the staff is actually quite similar. There's massive changes in the staff, but a lot of the core staff around him are the same people that have been around him for the last four years. Trump himself, though, is unchanged in the sense of his schedule and how he operates.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And so I think if you've covered it round one, it's not that it's any less chaotic or less busy, but you're just kind of more adjusted to it. Doing the chief White House correspondent job and doing my show... knock on wood, has not actually been that much of a stretch for me because they're so intertwined. But I think it's because I know how Trump operates.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And, you know, he doesn't really do much in the morning. Maybe he'll be posting, but he's not doing a lot of meetings or press conferences or anything. And then in the afternoons, it can be quite busy. And you could be going in there for a 45-minute press conference And you've really got to be paying attention to what's the headline here.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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So there's so much that's different, but so much that it is incredibly similar to round one.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Is there any evidence on that that he wasn't aware of it?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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If you watch the interaction, it's not as sensational as the New York Post makes it seem. I think they just do that for clicks. Two, I think that there's a job to do for each of us in terms of her job is to spin for her boss. I mean, people will disagree if you're the press secretary, what your role is. But as a Trump spokesperson, that is your job. And my job is to ask questions and get answers.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And there's always a natural tension between the press secretary for anyone and the press that covers them. And Trump watches these briefings really closely. He handed Caroline Lovett, had someone pass her a note in the middle of a briefing the other day, and asked her to highlight a pole. And that was while she was out at the podium. And so that was notable.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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But I think the third thing is, and this has always been my mantra kind of since round one, it's not about me. And if you let them make it about you, I think you're losing. And so whenever I'm in there... I'm not trying to get in an argument or engage in some kind of fight. You know, I'm going to ask my questions and I'm going to be persistent.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And so I think that's always important to remember is that, you know, it's not about you.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Being on Twitter is a vastly different environment than it was before. when I was covering Trump eight years ago. And eight years ago, I found it to be more useful in terms of disagreement and engagement. That's not the case anymore, really. It's certainly much more shifted to the right. And so certainly the response I see on there is way different now than it was eight years ago.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I know everyone says this, but it truly is not the real world because I'll see one narrative on there and then I'll be out living my life and talking to sources or random people in the airports and, you know, just anywhere. And it's a completely different view and lens. It's really remarkable, actually.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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Or it's like tips on cooking or something. I know. There's such different social media environments. But you do see how people can have their beliefs reinforced so easily by going online and choosing their platform. My dad will see things on Facebook about me and then call me to ask if it's true sometimes. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's just so funny. My dad's like, I saw this.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And, you know, it just shows you that people can choose their own narratives.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I can see completely different worldviews of something. The Zelensky meeting is a really good example. I was in the Oval Office for that because CNN was the pool that day. And we knew it would be tense. We knew it would be noteworthy. We had no idea that it was going to be like that. I mean, in that room, a pin could have dropped and no one was saying a word except the three of them.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And then hearing how other people saw it, either people who were on the left or not in touch with the news or on the right, it was remarkable just to see how people's views of it were from what they saw on social media, in the news, in the headlines, and whatnot.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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What happened for people who don't aren't in the weeds on this, is the White House took over the White House Correspondents Association, which is its own independent entity's responsibilities of determining the pool and the rotation every day, which is who's in it for TV, who's in it for radio, who's in it for print.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And the point of the pool is just that, you know, 30 reporters can't go with the president wherever he goes. What's different, though, is they're adding people in. And so you'll go in and there are people from right-leaning broadcast or outlets that are included in addition to the regular pool.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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The main difference and one that I disagree with is blocking the Associated Press from being part of that pool. Typically, they would go in every single day with the wires. And they have not let them in as they're in their court fight. The AP is suing. Trump changes the name of the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America. They did not identify that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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And my question, as I asked at the briefing when this all happened, was it's retaliatory in nature.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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But isn't it retaliatory in nature, is the argument, because the reason that the AP was barred, which they said was because they're not using the phrase Gulf of America, they're using Gulf of Mexico in line with their standards.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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And so the question here is, is this setting a precedent that this White House will retaliate against reporters who don't use the language that you guys believe reporters should use? And how does that align with the First Amendment commitment that you were just talking about? I was in the briefing yesterday and the Associated Press reporter who was in there got a question.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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And so they're not, it's not a complete block on them. The question is really whether or not the White House has changed since then to where they now control the pool. That is the question here in terms of whether or not they are ultimately successful here.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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I was the president, technically. Okay, you were. It is a serious organization, and they don't play favorites. And when I ran for president, you run, it's a three-year term. You know, I had to run a really competitive race. And what you do as part of that race that actually was really beneficial to me was you have to call hundreds of members of the WHCA and solicit their views, get their feedback.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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What do they not like? What do they like? It's a real race. I have like a newfound respect for politicians, which I don't generally say after running it because it was really difficult. And so this would have been my year to be the president. I moved to New York for two years, and so I had to relinquish the role, unfortunately. But the WHCA is not playing favorites or not blocking certain outlets.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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They just take it really seriously because the jobs of being in the pool are very serious. You could be in the pool on a day like 9-11. You could be in the pool on a day that there's an attempted assassination.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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I mean, these are not, and a lot of the days it's boring and you're just kind of hanging out in a van, but you have to be ready for those moments and you have to be ready to deliver for those moments. the rest of the press corps and the American people in that front. And so it's an incredibly serious position. It's not just you're getting time in the Oval Office.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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It has very serious responsibilities to it. You know, I love the White House press corps. I feel like professionally I grew up with them because I've been part of it since I was 25 years old. And I just, you know, I see how hard those people work and how they really are just trying to get answers and do their jobs. And so, you know, I have just a huge respect and appreciation for all of them.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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you have to fact check. And I think you have to do it in a way that doesn't derail your interview. What do they typically say? Is it true? And how can we correct whatever it is, but also continue with the interview? And so we want to make sure that it's going in the direction that we thought about and that we think is the best use of our viewers' time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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If someone I know is going to say something, because a lot of times politicians say the same thing over and over again, and I'll try to either correct it and press them on it if they've never been pressed on it, or if it's something that's obviously false, but is them kind of deflecting because they don't answer the question that I did ask, we'll correct it and then return to the question.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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But you're dealing with this and it's happening in real time. You don't always know what they're going to say. And you've got a compressed time frame. You know, you don't have 20 or 30 minutes. Sometimes I go a little longer than my team would like. They're telling me to wrap and I just keep going.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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But I think you have to do it because some people are watching and they don't know that that's not true. And you've got to correct that and make sure that you're adhering to that. Yeah.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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The question that investigators have, I think, is why you held on to those documents when you knew the federal government was seeking them and then had given you a subpoena to return them. Are you ready?

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Yeah, what's the answer?

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I would like for you to answer the question. Okay, it's very simple to answer. That's why I asked it.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Trump had not done a real interview with a non-friendly outlet. I don't think since he had left office and so on camera. I think he'd done a lot of book interviews, but he hadn't done anything like that. And so people had not seen Trump in a while. And I think also the Republican audience, it was Republican and Republican-leaning independents in New Hampshire.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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They were really friendly and receptive to him. I think that was actually really prescient because he went on to win the nomination and then the election. And we saw the numbers of that. And so I actually thought it was a really useful night because it was kind of a glimpse, if you were paying attention then, into what was to come. We asked him about January 6th.

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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and classified documents, two subjects that I knew he did not want to talk about. It's kind of one of those moments where the question is more important and not letting yourself get, you know, turned off from what you're trying to ask or distracted. And so that was my intent going into it. And I really didn't have a personal reaction to it.

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It was just, okay, he's not answering the question, was really the thought going through my mind. Yeah.

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Kaitlan Collins Is Not “Nasty”; She’s Just Doing Her Job

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I think we've gotten a lot better actually at covering Trump. When I was preparing for that town hall, I watched maybe five or six town halls that Trump did in 2016. Yeah.