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Days before the 2024 election, speaking to an electrified crowd at Madison Square Garden, President Trump made a promise.

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Meanwhile, agents were also targeting migrants the Trump administration alleged were gang members. One man from Maryland, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, was deported to a prison in El Salvador. Despite the fact that an immigration judge had already ruled he could not be deported to El Salvador because he might face torture in his home country.

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During this campaign speech, Trump railed against immigrants who come to the United States illegally, whom he described as criminals and gang members.

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Simon Sandoval-Moschenberg, a lawyer for Abrego Garcia, says that even though the administration admits deporting him to El Salvador was a mistake, they're not taking action to bring him back to the United States.

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But now, in fact, a judge has ruled that the Trump administration must take immediate steps to return Abrego Garcia by Monday at 11.59 p.m. Deportation in the United States usually involves a long, complicated legal process. But as Trump makes good on his campaign promises, immigrant rights advocates are worried he's steamrolling due process and First Amendment rights. Consider this.

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As the Trump administration expands the number and scope of deportations, what does that mean in practice? From NPR, I'm Asma Khalid.

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It's Consider This from NPR. Deportation is a complicated process with lots of layers. We are going to try to unpack some of those layers and understand it a bit better with NPR's Ximena Bustillo. She covers immigration policy and she joins us now in the studio. Welcome to the show.

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So you have been reporting on immigration for the last several months, and you've boiled down this deportation process into a number of different steps to help us understand how I would say a somewhat wonky process works. So what did you find?

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And just hours after his inauguration, the president signed a flurry of sweeping executive orders declaring a national emergency at the southern border, suspending refugee resettlement, ending asylum programs, and expanding the pool of people who could be deported.

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Got it. So let's start with the first step you just mentioned. What does it mean to be identified as deportable?

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So, Ximena, once someone is identified, then how does the government find them?

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OK, so Ximena, from there you enter into a court system. And I want you to help us understand how immigration courts differ than other courts in our American legal system.

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I have a question here, though. I mean, it seems like this court process you are describing is not actually what we have seen unfold with some of the high profile cases that we've been hearing about since President Trump took office.

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OK, so let's get back to the process that you were describing. And I want to ask you about the final two steps. Say you potentially get a final removal order and then you are removed. How does that actually happen? How does that work?

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In March, federal immigration agents also began arresting people involved with pro-Palestinian activism on college campuses. One of them was Mahmoud Khalil, a graduate student and green card holder. His wife, Noor Abdullah, filmed his arrest as agents who refused to give their names handcuffed him and put him in an unmarked car. Yeah, they just like handcuffed him and took him.

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So, Jimena, what you have described seems like an incredibly lengthy process, perhaps a rather costly process as well. And yet it is something that President Trump campaigned on. He promised to bring about the largest deportation in American history. So how is what he promised during the campaign actually unfolding in these first few months?

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All right. Well, thank you very much for your reporting. Thank you. That's NPR's Ximena Bustillo. This episode was produced by Avery Keatley, Ale Marquez-Honce, and Jeffrey Pierre. It was edited by Christopher Intagliata and Anna Yukonanov. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Asma Khalid.

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I don't know what to do. Shh. Abdullah told NPR it took 38 hours for her to find out where her husband had been sent. I think that's probably the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to me. Within weeks, masked ICE agents arrested another graduate student.

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Rumeysa Ozturk was studying at Tufts University on a valid visa and had co-written an op-ed criticizing the university's response to the war in Gaza. In this video provided by freelance journalist Daniel Bogoslaw, you can hear a bystander questioning the agents.

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The video game industry at a crossroads

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You're walking down a city street. You turn a corner and you're swarmed by zombies. You fight them off with a folding chair. Explosions rattle the street around you.

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It's Consider This from NPR. Every year, tens of thousands of video game insiders gather in San Francisco for the Game Developers Conference. New games are demoed, programmers hold tutorials, awards are given, and the big existential questions about the industry are debated. In other words, paradise for a video game journalist like Vincent Accovino, who recently covered the conference for NPR.

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That's Vincent Accovino, All Things Considered producer who covers video games for the show. This game is called Beatdown City Survivors and it'll be released later this year.

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He sat down with All Things Considered co-host Scott Detrow to unpack some of those big existential questions, starting with the tension between the huge game developers and the small independent studios like the one that made Beatdown City Survivors.

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The game might look retro, but it says a lot about this current moment in video game development. The video game industry is massive, probably way bigger than most people think. It brought in around $187 billion in revenue last year, which is more than the film and music industries combined. Much of that money was made by big developers creating big games.

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But more and more small independent studios are disrupting the space. Studios like New Challenger, which is making Beatdown City Survivors.

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That was NPR's Vincent Accovino chatting with All Things Considered co-host Scott Detrow. This episode was produced by Noah Caldwell and edited by Adam Rainey and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannickin. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Asma Khalid.

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Consider this. The video game industry is facing a host of issues. Massive layoffs, the advent of AI, games that take years to be released, and that schism between big and small developers. Today, for our Weekly Reporter's Notebook series, Vincent Accovino takes us inside this evolving world. From NPR, I'm Asma Khalid.

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The president intends to roll out a new immigration program in about two weeks. He calls it a gold card that is akin to a green card for people with a lot of money.

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The president said he could envision selling a million or more of these cards to raise revenue. This new measure would effectively replace the EB-5 immigrant investor visa, which allows foreigners to gain residency in the United States if they create American jobs and businesses. Asma Khalid, NPR News, the White House.

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After Trump spoke with Russia's Vladimir Putin, Moscow agreed to stop strikes on energy infrastructure. But Zelensky says that even after that agreement, Russian drones hit energy targets and two hospitals. Asma Khalid, NPR News.

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This all comes as Trump tries to broker a truce. He wants to end this now three-year war. The president posted on social media that he had a, quote, very good telephone call with Zelensky and said much of their discussion was based on the conversation he had Tuesday with Russia's leader. Trump says he's trying to align Ukraine and Russia's requests and needs.

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The Trump administration is launching an investigation into whether imports of copper pose a risk to American national security. It's using the same legal justification it's used for steel and aluminum tariffs. The White House did not specify how quickly the investigation would happen or what the potential tariff rate might be. Copper is key for emerging technologies like artificial intelligence.

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A White House official speaking on the condition of anonymity ahead of the announcement told reporters that China has been flooding world markets with subsidized copper, but the top copper producers in the world are actually Chile and Peru. Asma Khalid, NPR News, the White House.

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This news follows a highly anticipated phone call between Trump and his Russian counterpart as the American president tries to broker a truce. This is the first conversation Trump has had with Putin since Ukraine agreed last week to a month-long ceasefire. Trump would like Russia to agree to that pause as well, with the goal ultimately to reach an end to the war in Ukraine.

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According to the White House, Trump and Putin agreed any move toward peace will begin with a, quote, energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as negotiations on a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea. And talks to do this will begin in the Middle East. Asma Khalid, NPR News, the White House.

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The president's comments come as he has subtly softened his tone following stock market turmoil and economic uncertainty over his tariffs. Asma Khalid, NPR News.

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The president has said his administration is actively discussing the trade war with China, but China's foreign ministry and commerce ministry deny that claim. They've said there are no talks underway with the U.S. about trade. A reporter asked the president to clarify the contradiction.

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Biden says this was one of the toughest negotiations he's ever experienced. The deal largely holds to the framework, he says, that he outlined back in May, but it was reached in Biden's final days in office. The White House says it worked closely with the incoming administration, specifically Donald Trump's Middle East envoy.

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Trump is taking credit for the deal, posting on social media that it only happened as a result of his, quote, historic victory in November.

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The president spoke about the need to bring religion back, and he specifically talked about plans for a task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias.

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Trump said the aim is to stop anti-Christian discrimination within the federal government.

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Trump also announced plans for a new presidential commission on religious liberty, but did not specify how that would protect religious minorities. Asma Khalid, NPR News.

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Waltz had come under pressure the last several weeks after he accidentally invited a journalist to a private text chat among Trump administration officials about military strikes on the Houthis in Yemen. In public, the president defended Waltz and downplayed the incident. Even in making this announcement, the president praised Waltz for putting the nation's interests first.

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This is the first major personnel shakeup of Trump's second term. The president made the announcement on his social media site, saying that in the interim, Marco Rubio will be national security advisor, in addition to his existing job as the secretary of state. Asma Khalid, NPR News, the White House.

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This is the central part of Harris' closing argument. She's trying to create a clear contrast with Trump, and she'll try to make that case today as she campaigns in Black and Latino neighborhoods across Philly. Asma Khalid, NPR News, Philadelphia.

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Thank you very much. President Trump also questioned whether Putin was indeed really serious about wanting to end the war and suggested maybe he ought to put sanctions on Russia.

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Trump first floated the idea of no taxes on tips in this same city last June during a campaign rally. And he credits it with helping him win the key state of Nevada in the presidential election. The president said that in the coming weeks, he'll be working with Congress to get a bill to change the tax policies. Your tips will be 100% yours.

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A president cannot unilaterally change the tax code, but large portions of this sweeping 2017 tax law are set to expire at the end of 2025. And the president said tax cuts are at the top of his legislative agenda.

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No tax on tips. Asma Khalid, NPR News.

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Trump accused Ukraine's president of being disrespectful and unthankful for American support. The meeting became so heated that Zelensky left the White House earlier than expected. Zelensky was in town to finalize a deal that would give the U.S. access to Ukrainian minerals. But that deal was not signed. And Trump later told reporters that Zelensky does not want to make peace.

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But after Zelensky left the White House, he did an interview with Fox News' Brett Baier and insisted he does.

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But he also repeatedly made it clear he wants security guarantees from the U.S. so that Russia will not re-invade Ukraine. Asma Khalid, NPR News, the White House.

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There is certainly economic anxiety. You see that in the polling. New figures from the Commerce Department last week also showed that the U.S. economy shrank during the first three months of this year. You know, broadly, I will say President Trump believes that economists were wrong about the negative consequences of tariffs in his first term. And so he's trying to sort of cast doubt.

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I've heard this from the White House about some of the foreboding messages from economists now. But to be clear, Trump's tariffs now, this time around, are much steeper. than what he put in place in 2018.

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Trump Defends Agenda In Combative Address

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But she also acknowledged that there are reasons why people are supporting Trump. And she said at one point that she recognizes that Americans want change and there's a responsible way to do that and there's a reckless way to do that. Right.

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And so I think that multiple times you heard her acknowledge this underlying desire for change, but point out that the way Trump is going about doing this is just not responsible. And you also heard her single out Elon Musk. And I believe she called his gang of 20 year olds who are going through the system to trim, you know, and slash the federal government.

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And she also talked about her own personal background of somebody who had worked under both the Bush administration and the Obama administration. And I think to me that was an appeal to reach out to folks who may feel somewhat politically homeless in this moment.

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It also struck me that Democrats are really struggling in this moment with just how to articulate a response to President Trump. After he was escorted out of the chamber, he made a stop at the White House traveling press hold. And we got a pool note saying that he was explicitly yelling no mandate because he was referring to the no mandates to cut Medicaid.

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And he said it's worth letting people know that there were some folks willing to stand up for that issue. Again, it's pointing to the fact that, you know, Democrats in the chamber, outside the We're all trying to figure out the best way to show opposition in this moment. I don't think they've come to any agreement on how to do that.

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I think what stood out to me was that oftentimes this first joint address to Congress for a new president is about laying out an agenda. Now keep in mind Donald Trump is not entirely a new president but he's done a lot in the six weeks he's been in office and he went through all of that. He's frozen foreign aid. He's withdrawn from the World Health Organization.

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He's made English an official language. But my point in laying all this out is that he's done a lot. And so a lot of this speech was actually articulating some of the things he's done. And he leaned heavily into the culture war issues. You saw this with his focus on trans issues, his focus on immigration and the border. These are places he feels really comfortable.

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But what we did not hear much of in this speech, and it sort of surprised me, was his plan to tackle inflation and high prices. Trump has said that he won this election because of two main issues, the border and high grocery prices. He talked a lot about the border. We did not hear a whole lot about his plan to deal with grocery prices.

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He sees tariffs as a sort of revenue cure-all, right? He sees it as the possible solution for so many things. And one of the things that I was struck by is his recollection of how tariffs worked the first time around, right? I mean, he put in place massive tariffs on over $300 billion worth of goods coming in from China.

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Most economists will say that didn't really lead to any net positive gains for the U.S. economy. In fact, it actually hurt many consumers who ended up eating up those tariffs, right? And economists will say it's often like a tax on American consumers.

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Yeah. And I do think, you know, to me, that is a recognition also that there are certainly some folks, even within his own Republican Party, who have hesitation about the efficacy of tariffs. But, you know, again, I would say that like this is a broad strategy, not just he's talking about tariffs on China. He's put in place tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

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These are amongst the United States largest trading partners. He's talked about tariffs on all steel and aluminum. Another batch of tariffs coming in April where he says these are reciprocal tariffs. Meaning if a country tariffs the U.S. at a certain rate, he intends to tariff them back at a certain rate. This is a huge sort of multipurpose tool that he feels can be used for so many things.

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And the question I've had is like how much of this is really about an economic revenue adjuster or is this really just a political negotiation tactic?

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Look, immigration has long been, I would argue, Donald Trump's favorite political issue. It is a place he feels very comfortable speaking of. And he talks about the fact that he won in part, major part, because of the border. And it is true that encounters at the border have decreased rather substantially, I believe, over the last month. So this is a place where he can point to a political win.

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Thank you very much. And, you know, part of when you look at who's the guest that a president often invites, it's about humanizing and giving a human face to a president's top priorities. And this is a place which he feels very comfortable on. It is a place in which he believes he can point to actual like data wins and showing that there have been drops and encounters at the border.

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I mean, what struck me about the comments was just how little new there was to say about Ukraine. You know, I was at the White House on Friday. President Trump, this Trump administration wanted to sign a mineral deal with Ukraine. They see that as part of a broader plan to end the war with Russia.

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He was not here delivering sort of a grand vision of peace when it comes to Ukraine and Russia, because that's not what he has on his hands. I mean, he he said that Zelensky seems open to some sorts of negotiation and referenced a letter that he has received from from Ukraine's president. But really substantively, there wasn't a whole lot new about Ukraine.

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How Canada & Mexico Respond To Trump's Tariffs

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Yeah. Jackie, I want to ask you about that, because there was a lot of back and forth a couple of weeks ago where Trump threatened, you know, widespread tariffs on Canadian goods that would come into the United States. And I recall Justin Trudeau said, well, then Canada will retaliate.

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How Canada & Mexico Respond To Trump's Tariffs

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Eastern Time on Tuesday, February 11th of 2025.

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How Canada & Mexico Respond To Trump's Tariffs

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So these broad tariffs that Jackie was describing, as she mentioned, they are suspended for now. They could come back. Right. We don't really know what's going to happen on those across the board tariffs. But to me, this is interesting because Canada is a longtime ally of the United States. I mean, the countries share the largest undefended border in the world.

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And so by acting this way toward a major ally, it seems like President Trump is signaling that foreign policy is just a far more transactional process for him than it has been in previous administrations.

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I'm cold just listening to that. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Asma Khalid. I cover the White House. And I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics. And today on the show, Trump tariffs are back.

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Jackie, there's one thing, though, that Sue just said I want to ask you about, and that is the idea that the initial overture from Trump around broad-based sweeping tariffs, that it worked in eliciting some sort of response from Canada. From your vantage point, from your conversations with the people and politicians in Canada, did it work?

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Sue, given that ill will that Jackie has described, what is the off-ramp here? I mean, these two countries, Canada and the United States, have economies that are deeply intertwined. Is there an off-ramp here?

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Well, Jackie Northam, thank you so much for bringing your reporting to us.

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Yesterday, the president announced 25 percent tariffs on all steel and aluminum imports. Every country, no exceptions, no exclusions, even for our neighbors, Canada and Mexico. And this all comes after Trump had threatened and then pulled back from sweeping tariffs on Canada and Mexico. So today on the show, we want to hear how our neighbors are reacting.

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And we're going to take a quick break. And when we get back, we'll have more on the reaction from our neighbor to the south, Mexico. And we're back. And we're joined now by our colleague, Eder Peralta, who covers Mexico for NPR. Hey there, Eder.

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So, Eder, I also want to get the response that you are hearing from Mexico to this latest move from the Trump administration, the 25 percent tariff on steel and aluminum.

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Is that the strategy as well then that Mexico took when President Trump announced the broad sweeping tariffs that were going to go in place on Mexican goods on February 1st? Remember, that was similar to what happened in Canada. He announced these big tariffs. There were some talks and then he pulled back. But was Mexico's reaction similar at that time?

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And lucky for us, we have got a stellar group of international correspondents that we can call up. And we're going to start up north with NPR correspondent Jackie Northam, who was just in Canada's capital, Ottawa. Hey there, Jackie. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thank you very much for having me. Jackie, how is Canada responding to this latest news from President Trump?

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Ader, the way that these negotiations were presented to us, those of us who cover the White House, is that President Trump wanted changes from Mexico on immigration and that he got changes on immigration. Did he from Mexico?

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Sue, do you see these threatened tariffs as a negotiation tactic from the Trump administration?

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So then, Sue, just like I asked you about the dynamic with Canada, how does this end with Mexico? Is there an off-ramp?

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All right. Well, we will be keeping an ear out on what develops on the tariff front. But Ader, thank you so much for joining us.

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And that is a wrap from us today. I'm Asma Khalid. I cover the White House. And I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics. And thank you all, as always, for listening to the NPR Politics Podcast.

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Trump's Tariff Tumult

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So to me, these tariffs feel a lot more widespread and expansive now. than the tariffs in Trump term one, when you're talking about 25% tariffs across the board on Canada, which at this moment in time as of taping are still in place. There were also 10% tariffs, additional 10% tariffs on China that the Trump administration announced last month.

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Then just this week, they increased that to an additional 10% tariff. So, you know, I've spoken to some manufacturers who say that they are now looking at about a 45% cumulative tariff. imports coming in from China, because I don't know if folks remember, but there were actually tariffs put in place on China during Trump's first term. The Biden administration kept those in place.

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So those are still there. Those are still there. And they're tacking more on. Right. And then on top of that, they have announced plans for across the board, 25 percent tariffs on steel and aluminum imports coming into the United States from any country. And then the big headline is on April 2nd. Trump is calling for something called reciprocal tariffs.

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And his basic philosophy here is that this is about fairness. He says that other countries put high tariffs on the United States. And so we as a country ought to tariff those countries back at an equal rate.

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I don't think that the deluge of tariffs should be a particular surprise to a lot of folks because Trump campaigned on tariffs. He famously said that this was the most beautiful word in the dictionary. I think we anticipated this. They have come, though, I will say, with such a degree of speed. I mean, we didn't even mention this, but there's also investigations to possibly add tariffs to tariffs.

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Other specific things like lumber and copper. He's also floated the idea of putting tariffs on semiconductors. So this is an across the board tool. And as Scott was saying, it feels like the White House thinks that this is like a multipurpose Swiss Army knife, right? Like you can pull it out for all sorts of things. And at some point you wonder, well, what is this?

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Isn't this a negotiation tactic? Is it a political tool? Is it an economic tool? Is it about raising revenue? Is it about immigration? I don't know that we have a clear vision of that. Trump officials have been asked multiple times on different television interviews what this is about.

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And I don't think that they have delivered a clear, concise answer about what these tariffs are actually meant to achieve.

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I mean, as Scott said, he certainly takes a lot of cues from the stock market. But I will say it's sort of broader in terms of their vision on tariffs. I don't see President Trump completely dialing down tariffs entirely. And I would say that for two reasons. One is because, as I mentioned, he campaigned heavily on them and he did keep in place some tariffs.

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I mean, I know there was a lot of trade war tit for tat during his first term, but he did keep in place some tariffs on China. And the second reason I will say is... I think there are like multiple reasons why he is doing this. And one reason you'll hear from the administration is that this is about bringing more jobs back to the United States.

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And I know, Scott, you were talking about that just a minute ago. But, you know, they'll say that this is across the board. You know, President Trump was joined earlier this week at the White House with the CEO of the largest semiconductor chip maker in the world. This is a Taiwanese company, TSMC. And together they announced this $100 billion investment in U.S. factories down in Arizona.

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And, you know, the Trump administration's argument is, hey, look, we were able to achieve this through a threat of tariffs on semiconductors. We didn't use subsidies like that chipsack that former President Biden was touting. They see opportunities for economic investment to occur on the soil of the United States through tariffs.

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And, you know, there are individual companies that they can point to. There certainly are. And Scott, I'm sure you've talked to them, too, that that will say we have benefited from the implementation of these tariffs. I mean, there's a wire company not far from here in Maryland who is really optimistic about these tariffs. They make their products in the United States.

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They rely on American made steel tariffs. And yes, there are individual companies that perhaps have benefited from these tariffs. But I think on the totality, when you look at what happened from 2018, 2019, if we're going to look to the past, most economists would say the tariffs were not a net positive for the United States economy.

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ally and others. I mean, we've seen the political and economic reaction in Canada where we've seen them impose reciprocal tariffs of their own in response to what the Trump administration has put forth. You're also just seeing, I would say, the political culture sort of shift in real time where the United States and Canada have long been close allies and friends.

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And, you know, to the degree that other countries retaliate once these April 2nd big tariffs are announced, we'll have to see. I mean, the Trump administration's argument, and this is true, is that certain countries do have much higher tariff rates on U.S. exports than the other way around. And so that is their argument. They want to level the playing field.

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I do think it's worth pointing out, though, that a batch of tariffs from the Trump administration, the ones that were put on China, were kept in place during the Biden years. Because I think if people just hear this at the outset, I think there's an assumption that tariffs are inherently good or bad.

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And one of the questions I've had is, well, then why did a Republican administration put them in place on China and a Democratic one kept them in place? And I think that this is partly about, like, what is your end goal with the tariffs? And that's what I keep coming back to with the Trump administration. I don't have clarity over what is the end goal.

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You know, if the end goal is to diversify your supply chains away from China, then fine. You've actually achieved that, I would say, to some degree. You have more things maybe being produced in a place like Vietnam.

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But I think the challenge right now is when you have such sweeping tariffs on a whole bunch of countries, including your neighbors who you had a trade deal with, it's really not clear what the end goal is for putting all those tariffs in place.

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Great to be with y'all.

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The administration says it's giving employees the option to resign, be put on leave, and continue to be paid through September. It's a big move with the goal to shrink the government. The union that represents many federal workers described this effort as a purge of dedicated civil servants, and it does not consider the move voluntary.

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Under this new Trump administration, people in the federal workforce feel like they are being seen as the enemy in a way that they have never been viewed by prior administrations, either Republican or Democrat. And Steve, you know, being a government worker was once seen as a steady, secure job. But right now, federal workers feel like their jobs are very precarious.

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And that is indeed the intention. Trump wants government workers in line with his vision. He campaigned on remaking federal government. He campaigned on reshaping government as a whole. He telegraphed a lot of his decisions, and now he is following through just perhaps more swiftly than expected.

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It was a memo, Steve, that sparked utter chaos and confusion when it was issued by the Office of Management and Budget. It called for a temporary freeze in federal funds, grants, loans, other forms of assistance. It was a sweeping directive with little clarity. And Trump's press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, spent a bulk of the White House press briefing yesterday defending the freeze.

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What she's referring to there are programs related to diversity, equity and inclusion, as well as climate and just general overspending. But the memo was so broad that it was not clear what programs would be affected.

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The White House clarified that direct services like Medicaid, Social Security and food stamps would not be impacted, but also did not articulate if financial assistance that comes through nonprofits, you know, think, for example, of food banks, whether those might be affected.

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Well, Democrats raised alarm bells and accused Trump of violating the Constitution. Nonprofits expressed concern about cuts to services they provide. Diane Yentl is the CEO of the National Council of Nonprofits, which represents a network of some 33,000 nonprofits. She says this freeze could lead to catastrophic consequences.

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And so she was amongst a group that filed a legal challenge over Trump's move. And just as this directive was about to go into effect at 5 p.m. yesterday, a federal judge intervened.

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You know, it just allows sort of a bit of breathing room, at least until Monday. That is when a follow-up hearing is planned with more fulsome arguments on the merits of the case. Steve, I will say the courts seem to be really the arena where the fights around Trump's changes will play out.

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You know, for example, you're also seeing legal challenges to the birthright citizenship executive order as well.

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Good morning and happy holidays. Thanks for starting your day with us. I'm Asma Khalid. Whether you're squeezing in a quiet moment before the kids wake up, or whether today's a work day for you, like it is for me, Up First is here for you, no matter what your day has in store. We're here to bring you independent reporting, context, and analysis about the biggest stories of the day.

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For the second year in a row, official celebrations have been canceled. Palestinian leaders say they cannot rejoice as the war wages on in neighboring Gaza. In Bethlehem, which is located in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, people are also hurting, and tourism has plummeted since the war began. We go now to NPR international correspondent Carrie Khan, who is in Bethlehem.

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Carrie, what is the mood like in Bethlehem this Christmas?

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That singing is really beautiful to listen to. Thanks for sharing, Carrie. Without the crowds and tourists, what are residents, what are officials telling you in Bethlehem?

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Thanks so much for your reporting, Carrie.

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That's NPR's Carrie Khan in Bethlehem. In Sudan, the severity of the famine has worsened. Hunger experts say the country is experiencing one of the worst starvation crises in modern times. Since April of last year, a brutal civil war between the Sudanese army and a paramilitary group has fueled a near unprecedented humanitarian crisis.

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NPR's West Africa correspondent Emmanuel Akinwotu has been covering this and joins us now. Good morning, Emmanuel.

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And a Merry Christmas to you.

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So earlier this year, famine was declared in one part of Sudan, but it's now spread to five areas. What do we know so far?

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We were mentioning this ongoing civil war. How has the war made the humanitarian crisis more severe?

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Alrighty, now on to the news. It's a subdued Christmas in Bethlehem with the war in neighboring Gaza.

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How have the Sudanese authorities responded?

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That's NPR's West Africa correspondent Emmanuel Akinwotu. Thanks so much.

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Here on Earth, a lot of things happened in 2024. But for a couple of minutes, let's leave our planet and consider what happened this year in space. NPR science correspondent Nell Greenfield-Boyce is here to remind us of the highlights and the lowlights. Good morning, Nell. Hey there. So I've got to imagine that a big highlight must have been that solar eclipse back in the spring.

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What it's like for local Palestinians in the city Christians celebrate as the birthplace of Jesus. I'm Asma Khalid and this is Up First from NPR News. Famine has spread in Sudan, where people are experiencing one of the world's worst humanitarian disasters.

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What about 2025? What will we get to see in the new year in space?

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Definitely will. All right, that's NPR's Nell Greenfield-Boyce. And that's Up First for Wednesday, December 25th. I'm Asma Khalid. For your next listen, consider Consider This from NPR. Whether you play it on loop or whether it drives you crazy, there is no question some songs are permanent fixtures in the Christmas canon. What makes a song a holiday hit? Listen to Consider This from NPR.

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Today's episode of Up First was edited by Andrew Sussman, Miguel Macias, Giselle Grayson, Lisa Thompson, and Ali Schweitzer. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Jumas, Claire Murashima, and Anna Peretz. We get engineering support from Nisha Hynes, and our technical director is Andy Huther. Join us again tomorrow.

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Nearly two years into a civil war, the hunger crisis is getting worse. And with so much going on down here on Earth, it's always good to remember to look up at the stars. We look up at the year in space. Stay with us. We'll give you all the news you need to start your day. It's Christmas in Bethlehem, where Christian tradition says Jesus was born.

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Good morning, and from all of us here at Up First, we wanted to wish you a very Merry Christmas Eve if you're celebrating. I'm Asma Khalid, and we are so grateful that you're spending some of your holiday morning with us today. Grateful that you're with us every day. We know you have a lot going on in your life. That's why we work hard to make Up First as smart and brief as possible.

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Can you describe where you went to see these attack drones?

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And once you were there, what did you see?

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And it sounds like from your reporting, Brian, that these remote controlled weapons are being used by both sides, by both Russia and Ukraine. So are they actually making a difference for Ukraine in its fight?

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NPR's Brian Mann with the latest from near the front lines in eastern Ukraine. Thanks so much for your reporting.

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Scientific research in the U.S. relies heavily on foreign-born scientists, including more than half a million working under temporary visas. Those visas became more difficult to get during Donald Trump's first term as president, and they are likely to face new scrutiny again as Trump returns to the White House. NPR science correspondent John Hamilton has been reporting on that and is with me now.

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Good morning, John. Good morning. So tell us about this particular kind of visa.

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So I do recall during Trump's first term in office, these H-1B visas did come under attack. Can you remind us of what exactly transpired?

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Join now at plus.npr.org. That's plus.npr.org. All right, now on to the news. Ukraine's military is increasingly relying on unmanned attack drones in its fight against Russia.

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So what does this lack of clarity mean for the scientists that you've been speaking with?

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John, it seems like U.S. universities invest a lot in these folks and universities, large research organizations, the tech sector depend quite a bit on international talent. So what are they saying about the fear that people that they are investing in, that they are training, may take their expertise elsewhere?

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And PR science correspondent John Hamilton, thanks for your reporting.

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Each year, scientists add thousands of new species to the scientific record. Here to talk through a few of them is NPR's evolutionary biologist turned science correspondent, Jonathan Lambert. Good morning, John.

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So tell me what struck you as the most interesting species added to the roster.

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So how did he know that this was actually a different species, that it was any different than the other tiger cats out there?

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John, this is all fascinating to me because I feel like I always hear about species that are endangered. And I don't really pay attention to new species being discovered, but, you know, it's a bit of a bright spot. So what else do you have for us?

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I'm Asma Khalid and this is Up First from NPR News. Scientific research in the U.S. is driven by foreign workers on temporary visas.

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That's cool. So he discovered a new species while in undergrad?

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All right. So this is all really interesting, John. But these species are being found at a moment when a lot of biodiversity around the world is in trouble. So how do you square that?

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All right. Well, thanks for walking us through this all, John.

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That's NPR science correspondent Jonathan Lambert. And that's Up First for Tuesday, December 24th. I'm Asma Khalid. For your next listen, why not consider, consider this from NPR. As the U.S. economy outperforms most other countries, many Americans remain frustrated by the high cost of living. And that's fueled a lot of unhappiness and a political comeback for President-elect Donald Trump.

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Will his policies bring costs down or rekindle inflation? Listen to consider this from NPR. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Miguel Macias, Giselle Grayson, Lisa Thompson and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, Claire Murashima, and Ana Perez. We get engineering support from Nisha Hainas, and our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us again tomorrow.

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Why scientists are worried about this visa category they rely on. And we often hear about endangered species. But what about the thousands of new species identified each year?

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Stay with us. We'll give you all the news you need to start your day. The Ukrainian army has been struggling to slow Russia's advance in the east. Facing a manpower shortage, Ukraine is relying more and more on unmanned flying attack drones. NPR's Brian Mann was able to visit a secret drone command post near the front lines in Pokrovsk and joins us now from Kyiv. Good morning, Brian.

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Well, this week, we've heard the president and some of his top economic advisors acknowledge that the high tariff rates are not a sustainable long-term dynamic. And, you know, just to remind folks where we are at this point, Beijing has a 125% tariff on American goods. This was, of course, in response to a 145% tariff rate that the Trump administration put on Chinese goods.

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On Tuesday, the president told reporters that that rate is going to come down substantially.

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No, he did not give an actual number. And frankly, even if the tariff rate comes down by double digits, you're still looking at rates that are unprecedented in our lifetime.

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Yeah, I mean, it is. And there's really two main reasons for the shift. This tariff rate, you know, if they remain in place, they would virtually bring trade between China and the U.S. to a halt. But this is also fundamentally, Michelle, about the stock market and the economic uncertainty that Trump's tariffs have created.

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You know, Trump initially acknowledged that there could be some sort of short-term economic pain, but that it would be worth it. And now you hear his team boasting that they're striking deals, that they're in conversation with some 90 countries. The Treasury Secretary was also out there this week trying to quiet market jitters.

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And on a somewhat related note, the president also tried to alleviate fears that he himself had stoked last week when he suggested that he would get rid of Fed Chair Jerome Powell.

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But ultimately, Michelle, I mean, much of the economic focus has been on tariffs. And specifically, when it comes to China, the president has been softening his tough posturing. He said this week he's not going to play hardball with China's President Xi Jinping.

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I mean, we're not seeing any change in policy yet, despite the optimism that President Trump is projecting. China is, of course, one of the U.S. 's biggest trading partners. Anna Ashton was with the U.S.-China Business Council for years. And so yesterday I called her up. I wanted to get guidance on this all. And I asked her, you know, what is the off ramp here? And she did not sound optimistic.

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The president told reporters this week that if his administration cannot reach a deal with China, they'll just set a number unilaterally, by which he means they will set a tariff rate on their own. That is NPR's Asma Khalid. Thanks, Asma. Good to speak with you.

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And so as you notice there, despite the accusations he's making about India on trade, you know, Trump has a really fond relationship with India's leader. He had a very warm personal relationship with him. And Modi quite literally and famously gave Trump a bear hug when they two first met at the White House. And, you know, they're known to have similar populist styles.

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They went on to host these joint mega rallies together, first in Texas and then later in India with tenors. tens of thousands of supporters.

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Well, trade is certainly the number one priority for the Trump administration in this relationship. The U.S. is in a trade deficit with India. Ahead of this visit, India announced that it was lowering tariffs on motorbikes. And that opens the door for more exports of Harley-Davidson's, which is something that has been important to President Trump.

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Lisa Curtis was in Trump's National Security Council during his first term. She told me that Prime Minister Modi understands Trump and he's also offering to increase imports of American oil and gas to avoid a broader fight over trade issues. But she also knows from experience that India is a tough negotiator.

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Certainly immigration. Illegal immigration is a big priority for Trump. And according to estimates from the Pew Research Center, the third largest group of people in the United States without legal status are actually Indians. Earlier this month, the Trump administration flew a group of Indians back to India on a military plane, and it caused some domestic political backlash for Modi.

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But I would say it's not just illegal immigration. I especially work visas. So I do expect immigration and trade, of course, to be major issues because these are major fixations for President Trump. But other issues, I would say, Michelle, that are likely to come up are technology and defense cooperation.

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India has had a very strong bipartisan relationship and bipartisan support over the last several administrations, Republican or Democrat. And we've seen that especially as the United States has worked to counter China's influence in the region. That is NPR's Asma Khalid. Asma, thank you. Nice to speak with you.

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Well, the president has been talking a lot about reciprocal tariffs. And, Michel, that's the idea that if a foreign country charges, say, a 20 percent tariff on U.S. imports, then the U.S. ought to slap a 20 percent tariff back on them. Trump was actually talking about this idea even months ago during his campaign last fall. He accused India of being a, quote, big abuser of tariffs. Take a listen.

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Good morning, it's Asma Khalid. Before we dive into today's show, I want to give you all a quick look behind the scenes of Up First. Here at NPR, our staff work round the clock to bring you the latest news. They coordinate with reporters and editors across the country and around the world to make sure you start your day with analysis and news from the biggest stories of the moment.

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Today, President Biden is using his clemency powers to commute the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row. The 37 individuals who are all men will now serve life in prison without parole. It's one of the most significant moves against capital punishment in recent presidential history. And here to talk through the news is NPR White House correspondent Deepa Shivaram.

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Good morning, Deepa. Hey, good morning. So what has President Biden said about this decision?

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You can sign up for NPR Plus today at plus.npr.org. That's plus.npr.org. Now, on to the news. President Biden is using his presidential authority to commute the sentences of dozens of men on federal death row. With just a few weeks left in office, what's behind the president's decision? I'm Asma Khalid, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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Deepa, I think this is all really interesting because I recall covering President Biden's campaign and back during that 2020 presidential election cycle, he said that he opposed the death penalty, but he has not taken a whole lot of action as president on this issue until now. How much pressure was he facing to do this?

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Just briefly here, how much of Biden's decision was also impacted by how the incoming Trump administration might handle federal executions?

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Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. The National Institutes of Health recently announced it's investing $300 million to research treatments for long COVID. In total, the agency has directed $1.8 billion towards studying the virus and its after effects, which is associated with extreme fatigue, brain fog and heart problems.

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But many patients are frustrated that researchers haven't come up with a reliable treatment yet. For more on this, I'm joined now by health reporter Sarah Bowden. Good morning, Sarah. Hey, good morning. So, Sarah, $300 million, it sounds like a substantial amount of money. Why are patient groups still not pleased with this?

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So how are patients coping in the meantime?

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Thank you. That's health and science journalist Sarah Bowden. She's a member of NPR's KFF Health News Collaboration. Lebanon is a small country chock full of antiquities. Greco-Roman ruins, crusader castles, Ottoman architecture. And some of it was damaged in the war there this fall between Israel and Hezbollah militants. Christmas Day marks one month since a ceasefire took effect in Lebanon.

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In addition to the more than 4,000 people who were killed there, according to Lebanon's health ministry, officials are still assessing damage to cultural heritage sites. NPR international correspondent Lauren Frayer recently visited several of those sites, and she joins us now. Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, Asma. So tell us about what you saw at the places you visited.

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You know, Lauren, in war, cultural sites are meant to be protected by all parties in a conflict. So what is the extent of the damage here you're seeing?

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For those living with long COVID, it can come with extreme fatigue, brain fog and heart problems.

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Lauren, what are the prospects of rebuilding?

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That is NPR's international correspondent, Lauren Frayer. Thanks so much.

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You too. And that's Up First for Monday, December 23rd. I'm Asma Khalid. For your next listen, consider Consider This from NPR. It's been a year of high-stakes elections around the globe. About half the world's population lives in countries where elections have taken place, from India and Venezuela to the U.S. and South Africa. So what did we learn about the state of democracy?

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NPR White House correspondent Asma Khalid was listening. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. Okay, so what exactly did the president say about the Constitution on NBC?

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Yeah, it had to be closed because it was falling apart. Did the president make any news on the economy, Asma?

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We're getting to the contradiction of the entire tariff gap. Aside from the legality of whether it's even legal what the president is claiming to do on a permanent basis now, he likes tariffs. He wants permanent tariffs. He also talks about negotiating away the tariffs in exchange for other benefits. Is the administration trying to make deals?

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NPR's Asma Khalid with reporting and analysis made right here in the United States. Asma, thanks so much. Good to speak with you. Israel is planning to limit the way that food and supplies are distributed in Gaza.

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And Piers Daniel Estrin is covering this story in Tel Aviv. Daniel, welcome. Thank you, Steve. What exactly is the plan?

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Okay, limited number of aid centers. Who would run them?

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Thanks for that bit of reporting. What are aid groups and the United Nations saying as they reject this plan?

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Daniel, you said something about an American contractor being part of this. Is the United States on board?

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One bit of news from the weekend. There was a big bomb crater that I saw outside Israel's airport. What happened?

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Asked if he needs to uphold the Constitution, his answer began, I don't know. We'll listen to the context of a remark about immigration.

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NPR's Daniel Estrin is in Tel Aviv. Thanks so much.

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All right, the trial of Sean Diddy Combs begins in New York today.

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NPR's Isabella Gomez Sarmiento is covering the trial for NPR in New York, and this report lasts about three minutes. Good morning.

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Many people have followed this blow by blow, but what exactly is Combs on trial for?

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How did these criminal charges relate to the civil sexual assault lawsuits that Combs also faces?

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And we have this question now that comes up whenever somebody who's extremely famous is put on trial. How do you select a jury for a case like this where so many people have probably heard something about it?

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Really interesting. So if he is convicted, how long could he go to prison?

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Man in his mid-50s. Isabella Gomez Sarmiento, thanks so much.

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And that's up first for this Monday, May 5th. I'm Steve Inske.

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Also, Sean Diddy Combs is at risk of spending the rest of his life in prison. He's accused of abusing both women and men and using his power over them to keep them silent. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. Not for the first time, President Trump made remarks that left people wondering what he really meant.