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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Why'd you ask him? Just give us one tease.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Alonzo Mourning, not really a laugher. Well, he doesn't associate with sad either. Kind of in the middle there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
A little if their careers ended today. Oh, I like that. I like this spin on this game. I'm with Dan on this one, Greg.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
How about Russell Wilson? If career ended today. Because he played his way in and then out. But now he's had another good season. What do you think, Dan?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
You guys watch that yet, or what?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Dan, you like documentaries. We know this. I find myself falling for the traps of the documentaries. So I texted two people. I saw that the Aaron Rodgers one came out yesterday, and I was like, well, this is going to be a talking point. I should probably watch this. But it's three parts, and I started watching at 9.30 at night, which is usually when I fall asleep.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
So I knew it was going to be a task to watch all three episodes last night, but I texted two different people. When I started, I go... I'm mentally preparing myself to like Aaron Rodgers when this is done. Because that's how these documentaries always go. You always end up thinking like, oh, you know, Joe Exotic is really not that bad a guy. And it's like, well, he kind of is.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
So like all these documentaries make you sympathetic towards the person and then like somewhat liking them at the end. So I went in there saying, I'm probably going to like Aaron Rodgers when this is done. Not that I dislike him now. I'm just like, I feel like it's going to be very pro Aaron Rodgers. Kind of feel bad for him. What? Like watching it. The family stuff?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
It just, and you guys can watch it and I'm not going to give you too much information. It's incredible access. And I also realize no one is living life without a camera crew around them anymore in 2024. Because this starts pre-Jets injury. Like he already had the camera crew there. He was already doing stuff before he got injured.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
And then you're kind of are then following him as he got injured through his recovery. Then you're kind of going back in time, learning about how he kind of came up through the ranks, had to play at a junior college, all that stuff. So the project started when he joined the Jets? It started, like, right before he joined the Jets, I think.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
So I don't think this necessarily was supposed to be how it went, but it became this other thing. And then it's broken up into, like, three different episodes, and each episode is, like, a different story that they're telling about Aaron Rodgers. So far, two episodes in, like, two and a quarter in because I fell asleep in the third. I feel bad for him, and it's not the way that you think.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
I feel bad for him in that, like, He doesn't seem happy. It seems like he spent his entire life wanting one thing, and that was to get to Division I school, then it was to get to the NFL, then it was to win the Super Bowl. And he did all of that, and then there just seemed to be an emptiness in him. And now he's just spent the rest of his life trying to fill that feeling and chase meaning, really.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
So it's kind of sad because he's accomplished all this stuff and seems to still think he's not enough. And he's not really doesn't have this meaning in his life. And he's just kind of seeking it out and searching it in all these different areas.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
It's not really like a football documentary, though. His rehab is covered, and you're kind of seeing how he's trying to get back. But it tells his football story, but it's really more like who Aaron Rodgers is and how he got here is kind of what it is.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
It goes back to his very Christian upbringing and then the fact that he went to more of a liberal college and how it had him start questioning things because he kind of got out of the bubble that he was in, and then he started –
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
really having more questions in life, and then as he had more success and he wasn't finding happiness, he then started looking for happiness and reading books and finding happiness in different places that then take him down these different paths. It's kind of interesting, but you do feel bad for him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
The one thing that I would say is that some of this stuff, and it's not meant to be judgmental, but
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
some of the stuff that he's like well i didn't really want any of this and it's like yes and no like yes you wanted to be a great football player but like also he said that he kind of lost like once he won the super bowl everything changed he became a public figure he was never seeking that out of the fame or whatever and it's like maybe not but like you also decided to be the state farm guy that kind of really elevated you into like a household name everywhere so like there's things like that that were decisions that were made you know he even alluded to some of the
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
the people that he's dated. He even talks about the family stuff to an extent. So like there's a lot in there and you kind of see how he got to where he got to, whether you agree with what he's doing or not. But like at the end of the day, judgment aside, like I just kind of, I kind of hope he just finds happiness. You know what I mean?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
And like find some sort of meaning and fulfillment in his life. Cause that's really what he seems to be searching for just in places that are not necessarily where you and I would. The Jets. Well, yeah, that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Well, that started earlier than we think, too, if you watch it, because I think he's gone to like four or five retreats now. And I think it goes back deeper than the initial one that like we the big one, like a year and a half ago or whatever, that he had already done that a couple of different times.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
I don't know that I would call it a crisis, watching it. His behavior is not what I think most people would do, but I see how and why he's doing it. I don't necessarily need to agree with it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
I just kind of feel bad that he's going through it, and he just feels as though, seemingly, as someone who's just watching a documentary that he produced, he's going through seemingly not, I guess, being truly happy and accepting of himself.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
crazy access to like there was cameras with him when he had a conversation with rfk they didn't show it but spoiler alert they didn't show it but like they showed him in the car driving back after going on a hike with rfk he's like yeah he just asked me to be vice president so like that wasn't a rumor that was like he asked him that day to be his vice president which is kind of wild then they have the camera crew grow go with him to costa rica to these ayahuasca retreats oh boy he's high really he's oh boy he's i mean he's playing a little little drum there and he's singing and dancing like i love
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
But, I mean, that's his group. That group of people he finds to be, you know, it's giving him what he's searching for. Then he goes to, like, this charity game days after this retreat. Man, Josh Allen comes out so nice. What a nice, loving guy. He's like, hey, buddy, how's it going? Great to see you. What a happy guy that guy is.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
I'll let you know how episode three of the tease was, the whole vaccination situation.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Well, the thing is, they're each like an hour and six minutes long. I start watching it. I have to pause, let the dogs out, do this whole thing. And then I come back, I'm dozing. I could have tightened it up slightly, a little bit, a little bit. But, you know, it's interesting. I would say if you really want to, and you don't have to, reserve judgment while you're watching it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
And then maybe it's a more enjoyable experience or you can get something out of it. If you go in there and you just want to hate Aaron Rodgers, you'll probably find things to hate him for.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Well, I mean, if you're to believe the documentary and the way that it sets it up.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
winning the super bowl is really kind of what set this all off because he reached the pinnacle of what he thought would be happiness and realized i'm not happy well but this is like i did absolutely everything that i wanted to do professionally and i thought that would bring me the happiness and then once i got there is when things really started feeling like this is not what i wanted so this is what i will tell you from there and this one's super interesting too tyson fury
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Save the sports, Somerset. Even though influencers were there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Don Levitard. We didn't get to your guys' Against the Spread. You're right, you're right, you're right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
You need an Ian in your life.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary
Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Yeah. No, Drewski definitely... He's talented, he's talented, and I think the thing that old people like me, Mike, get to when we see these influencers or these people exist in this space is like, what do you actually do? Because a lot of them, and it's crazy, you said Tom Green, Tom Green is one of those people I think of as like,
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
the first of like, all he does is act weird in public and that's supposed to be, that's the whole bit. There's gotta be something more to it. There's gotta be something more to it. Druski, there's something more to it. He is absolutely funny, and there's thought behind what he's trying to create around it. Kai Sanat, I think, is the same thing. He is naturally a funny guy.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
He's got writers, right?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
You see him on Theo Vaughn's podcast. You see him on Tom Segura's podcast. He's a funny guy, right? Kai Sinat, maybe, I think, more likely to have writers and guys that are fleshing out stuff. But again, there is some sort of infrastructure behind it as opposed to, I won't name any names, but some other influencers are just like, oh! I'm going to be weird. And that's it. That's all the kids want.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Someone acting weird on camera.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Let me just stop you right here. That is not neither Beatles nor Michael Jackson level. Ladies, for the younger viewers, if you want to know what Beatles Michael Jackson level was, imagine the entirety of the screen. You couldn't see trees. You couldn't see buildings.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
There are hundreds of people, though, out here.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
There are a lot of people. That's very impressive, though. It's very impressive. Very impressive turnout. Also, not Michael Jackson.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Noah didn't want a rematch. I'm not. Because, again, it's whatever these things are playing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
No, he's athletic. He is definitely athletic. The part where it's like this guy might be one of the fastest human beings in the world, no, I don't. Because, again, I understand what I'm watching. I'm watching something that is curated, that's created, right? And it's like, hey, Noah, it would be fun if this is – don't worry, you'll still win. But we'll make it seem like I almost – like –
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
That is 100% within the realm of the content that they create.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
400 senior FAA officials plus the head of the TSA and 3,000 air traffic controllers were fired as recently as a week ago. Jeff, without making this about politics, can you just tell me how rare this is and what kind of leadership breaches might cause it?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Yeah, the merit is in content creation. It's not in racing people. That's my point, right?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
I've never heard of- Brewski. It's not Brewski.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Thank you. We are trying to stay, we're trying to keep up in a young man's game. We're doing it with my father grazing in the kitchen right now. He is hitting the cashews. He's destroying. Yes, he's been hitting the cashews here for a while. I will tell you that while Papi is here and a source of great radiant entertainment, my mother complains that at home she doesn't get to, you know, have Papi.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
She's got Gonzalo. He's not as fun. She went to the Heat game with him last night. Here is my father at the Heat game. She sent a photograph. Please show everybody. Please show everybody first, not my father. Please show everybody in the photos so you can see how happy the others are.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
That's my mother saying, look the joy that your father has watching Tyler Hero and the Heat lose by 20 to the Cavs. There is my father. He is not exactly Radiant Papi there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
It was a bad game. Is he awake? To his credit, other than the third quarter. No, he's awake. He's awake. He's upset. That's anger right there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Bobby, get in here for the postgame. I want to talk to you.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Look at me. I am your career. Stugatz.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
in. The other thing I was thinking about the other day was how government is like a restaurant, right? One party or one person owns the restaurant. We serve sushi here. That's what it is. It's a sushi restaurant. You come here, you have sushi. And then new management comes in and says, you know what? Don't want to serve sushi. We're going to do Italian. We're going to be an Italian restaurant.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
And I think that is what is typical in this country of how it should be. The new owners should be able to dictate what's on the menu. It's your restaurant now, right? What can't be up for question is we're not going to pay the power bill. You can't do that, right?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
There are certain things, there are certain systems that regardless of what kind of menu we serve at this restaurant, this has got to get taken care of. Whether it's the power bill, whether it's the water bill, whether it's paying your taxes, you can't just say, hey, I'm an Italian restaurant also. I don't do none of that other stuff. You can't do that. And that's the feeling I get.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
When I see a lot of the appointees, when I see a lot of what's happening in the last week or so in government, in federal government, it's a lot of like, and by the way, we're not going to do this anymore. Hey, CDC, no communication with the outside world. These are all kind of things that are like, this has nothing to do with your politics or the menu that you want to serve.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
This is like bare bones foundational stuff that you're stopping.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Let me, if I can, though, because I have railed for a while now, right, because I can't think of many greater horrors than us being generally okay with somebody walking into a school.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
and shooting kids and slaughtering them and you can't be safe in America that you are putting your kids in the hands of someone else and trusting that the system will return your child alive because you live in America and you're trusting America that way and I've gotten very frustrated when that happens when it immediately after that like the blood has not been mopped up from our schools and it's happening so daily that we're numb to some of this stuff when the shootings happen
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
It becomes immediately a political conversation. So I don't actually want to make this horror in the sky and then on the floor about and where is the leadership or, you know what, Biden's to blame for the fires, but Trump's to blame here. I don't actually want to do that. I simply want to rest in the horror of what?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
We're presently living in a country where you trust things to work less than you did, whether it's customer service or my house isn't going to catch fire or I can be driving like I do every morning and not see plane parts on the ground because people, 64 people have died.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
But then it's all inherent, right? Like none of these things happen in a vacuum. A plane crash doesn't happen in a vacuum. People's homes don't get destroyed and not have the funding to rebuild in a vacuum. They all happen as a result of decisions that precede them. If you fire 3,000 air traffic controllers and 400 senior officials and the head of the whole thing,
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Regardless of who you, oh, I got a guy. There's no guy that can come in there and replace that much turnover, right? If we did away with the entire shipping container and brought in new people here, there's no way the show would be smooth running the next day. It's just, it's common sense.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
And these are the things, and there's a reason why in government there are positions that are political appointees. We know. The Secretary of Defense, guess what? Every time we have a new president, we got a new Secretary of Defense. We got a new Secretary of the Treasury, et cetera. Those stuff, yes. But then there's...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
a ton of positions within each one of these departments that are not political points. It's because we understand the need for continuity, the need for the government, for this whole system, what Jeff Wise was talking about, this thing that we put all this trust in, and of course it's safe. The reason why we've done that is because for however many decades, that's how we've done it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
And so I don't know how you can separate some of the decision-making that's happened in the last 10 days from a tragedy like this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Well, accidents happen, and I would say I understand in helpless times the thing we do is who's to blame?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
But in that is the ignorance of not understanding, right? There are things, like Jeff Wise said, that you take for granted. You take for granted. Like you said, everyone's like, oh, man, I pay all these taxes. Where do my taxes go? It's like, yeah, like you are benefiting from it all the time. Could it be better? Absolutely.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
But again, the answer, more often than not, for a lot of these things, cannot be everybody gone and I'll figure it out later. Or the way I figured out is bringing people who aren't qualified in the sense that they don't have any experience to how to handle something this large. This isn't like I fired my head chef and I hired new chefs, chefs are chefs. This is something much larger than that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
draining the swamp to a certain base looks like sweeping change I'm just I don't want to turn that into the conversation even though I understand why it is that that we're doing it because sometimes horrific things happen I'm I'm not even saying, like this, I don't know whether this is an innocent accident or not that can't be tied to any of this other stuff that we're talking about.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Where there seems to be some flaming debris that is more than circumstantial evidence that would suggest there's an obvious correlation between these things. But if they're not, I would just ask the audience to notice that there are an assortment of American systems all over the place that are failing, that are making things feel unsafe, and they are a byproduct
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
of whatever an absence of leadership is on both sides.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Dan, all I'm saying to you is, I appreciate the point you're making. All I'm saying to you is, we had, in essence, an air traffic accident last night, right? We fired 3,000 air traffic controllers 10 days earlier, a week earlier. Like I get the point you're making and it's a salient point. It's a good conversation to have.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
So can you tell me, though, when things like this happen and people get helpless and they get angry, they want to assign blame and they want to blame people in charge and hold them accountable. What happened here?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
I'm saying in this particular tragedy, I find it very difficult to say the completely unrelated, completely understood. I think it was an accident.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
I absolutely think I understand what you're saying. I'm saying this is the first 10 days of this administration and the fires were just before that. And there are all sorts of apocalypses that lack the proper governance all over the place because things are burning and we are devoid of leadership, all of it leadership, that protects us.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Before the crisis and after the crisis like I'm not I we can do this today I just there's just there's still chars on the ground. There's still human like there are human bodies on the ground I understand that's the reason that that we're doing Somebody's got to be blamed for that but to descend into politics at every turn when they're still
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
When they're still human remains, there's still people learning about this at this moment.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
That's what we do with gun violence, though, and rightfully so. When there are people who are in charge and can do things to prevent our most horrific moments, no matter what side of the aisle they're on, we should be criticizing them. I mean, yesterday morning, there was a political science professor who said that an FAA employee that they knew
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
said that we were severely lacking on air traffic controllers and specifically went out of their way to say, like, remember when there are flight delays or even potentially crashes that don't let them blame DEI and Biden for that. This is what happened over the last 10 days. And then later that day, there's a crash. And that's not to say that.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
that it is specifically blood on the hands of the administration. But it would be false to look at anything that happens, particularly when we're slashing regulation or slashing rules, and say it's not political. Everything that happens is political.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
To me, it's simple. It's like, hey, if someone makes a decision to say, you know what, I'm going to turn off a bunch of traffic lights in the city and not put a traffic cop there, and then we have some collisions in the intersection, to say, well, it could have been any number of reasons. That's disingenuous, and it's not a political thing. I'm not criticizing politics. I'm criticizing a decision.
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You make a decision.
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But here is, and I'll get off of this in just a second, but if everyone's choosing their own information sources, And if I can see every single dumb thing turned into politics and be mesmerized by how quickly the arguments form on the other side for whatever, here's why Elon Musk was actually doing this with his hand. But we can make it about any single thing that is making anyone feel anything.
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Why are you putting your head in your hands, Jeremy?
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Well, there are facts and there are fictions, right? Elon Musk did do a Nazi salute.
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We saw it with our own eyes. Jeremy, what is happening is there another group of people getting another set of information sources that create all the arguments on the other side of that that doesn't receive that as absolutely as you do. And it seems to be more than half the voting country.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Jeremy, this is what I would say in Dan's defense. In some way, it can be looked at as a matter of opinion. Some people say, oh no, he was just saying from my heart to you. That's what he was doing. I'm not saying that. I agree with you, but I'm just saying there is a logic that can be formed For the opposing viewpoint.
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My point against you, Dan, is firing 3,000 air traffic controllers isn't a matter of opinion. That isn't a source of information. That is something that happened. And we had an air traffic accident not long thereafter. That's not up for debate or who did I vote for or anything. That is justified. That's why I say you criticize the actions rather than the politics behind it.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
The only issue that I have with looking at specifically the Elon Musk example or things like it is like, oh, well, half of the population says that's not the case. OK, they're wrong. And like there are facts and there are fictions and there are
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that we can look at differently, but when you then have people following you, you have a pastor yesterday doing the same salute when talking about these things, we are going down a very dangerous path and have been for the last decade now of letting people who have skin in the game, tell us that what we're seeing is not what we're seeing. And that is literally how democracy dies.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
And I know I sound now hyperbolic, and I said to Chris five minutes ago, I always sound like an asshole when I talk about this stuff, which is why I'm not talking. But this is such a problem, and we're just going to go, well, let's not make it political. All of this is happening, and we can't run away from it. Former priest who got fired.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
I think, Jeremy, one of the things that I've kind of resolved myself to doing is trying to figure out, because it can't just be, well, it's this, and then the other side, well, it's that, and that's it. You've got to hit it at a point where it is unthinkable. Right. Where I'm not even saying, hey, you got to switch whatever team you root for.
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You just got to say, yeah, that was a bad move by coach, which we're at a point now. Right. If we're going to use the analogy that one side is team blue and this team, the team red, that whatever coach chooses, he said, go for it on fourth and thirty five. That was a good move. Good move. Right.
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Like, no, no, I just my dream for this country is not even like, hey, people wait until election time to pick the best candidate. Stick with your teams. I'm just saying, can we get to a place at least where you're like, yeah, coach kind of dropped the ball.
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I'm constantly criticizing Democrats, dude. I'm just saying.
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I understand that. But I will just say that you not talking, but however, while I'm talking, putting your head in your hands with such disgust that it distracts what I'm saying, that's like talking. Can we agree that that's like talking? It's communicating. It's nonverbal communication.
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But to be producing me, to be helping produce me in this juggernaut of a show, and while I'm talking, for me to palpably feel through a soundproof glass your disgust and be distracted while I'm talking because you're hiding your disgust in your hands, that's like talking, no?
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Well, maybe don't say things that disgust me, Dan. No. Nobody's more critical of Democrats than Jeremy.
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Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Is anyone more critical of Democrats than Jeremy?
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I want them to destroy the party.
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So, yeah.
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All right.
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All right. We'll see. We'll find out. The American public will speak on that clean and unbiased ex.
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I'm not doing that.
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Look, it is fair to ask all of your questions in the horror of seeing something like that. If it happened to any of you, there would be no flippant around this, and you wouldn't care about anybody's politics if it was somebody you cared about. And something this nonsensical. This unsafe just happens you wake up to and it's just human error.
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And then you read people have been investigating this stuff and you're like, yeah, this could have happened 300 other times in the last couple of years.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
That's the part where I'm like, look, I don't give a shit what they vote for. I give a shit that there's someone there who knows what they're doing, who it's not their first week on the job. Like, that's what it comes down to. And that's implying that they replaced 3,000 air traffic controls with 3,000 new ones. They didn't do that. They didn't do that. And to me, that's all this comes down to.
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This is a failure of infrastructure. Regardless of any political reasoning why it happened, it happened. That's the part that cannot be argued or justified or whatever. 3,000 people whose job it is to make sure that the planes don't bump into each other in the sky. We're no longer employed.
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There is nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99% of America. Seriously. Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. The Boost Mobile Network, together with our roaming partners, covers 99% of the US population. 5G speeds not available in all areas.
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Hour 2: The D.C. Plane Crash Tragedy (feat. Jeff Wise)
Jeff, the director of the FAA resigned on the day of the inauguration. What kind of impact does that have on a situation like this? Yeah.
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Okay, great. Wonderful. So let's do this in a different way. Jeff, how long have you been an aviation journalist?
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About 20 years you've been doing this. Yeah, 23 years. Okay. And you do it why? Your care or your passion come from where? I'm a nerd.
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Okay. All right. So the reason I asked the question, though, the state of the industry that results in this crash, is this a one-off or is this something that sets alarm bells off for your expertise on, no, we're doing stuff here where we're freezing air traffic control hires last week and this is emblematic of something?
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More flawed than it's been in your experience over 20 years, or is there no way to quantify that even with your expertise? Like, I'm just curious if there's something in the system that you've noted beyond the crash that spending or investigation documents that we're in a greater state of disrepair here than we have been in your experience doing this.
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His podcast is called Finding MH370, an investigation by The New York Times in 2023. found 300 close calls near airports nationwide, and they were the result of human error, 300 of those. Is the average passenger in more danger today on takeoff and landing than he or she was before?
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Is there a problem specifically with the traffic at Reagan International?
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We appreciate the expertise. Your genuine natural reaction when you heard that the new Transportation Secretary was a former cast member of The Real World? Um...
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I have been telling you recently among my many fears that it seems like some basic American systems are just failing. Things are failing and getting worse. And overnight, many of you woke up this morning to a crash that it seems confirmed now. that there aren't going to be any survivors.
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You know what? That's a perfect dismount. Like I thought you had dismounted perfectly right before that, but your general confusion as a nerd expert on these things, just stumbling your way to, you know what? Yeah, it's crazy. It's all, it's crazy. There are planes crashing in the sky. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Everything's gone crazy. Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate the time, sir.
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That is some expertise at the end. I'm not even kidding you. He speaks for all of us when he's just looking up in the sky and things are falling out of the sky and he's like, yeah, this is crazy, right? It's what we're doing. It's crazy, yes? Like everything that we're participating in is just nuts.
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Greg, how's your birthday going so far?
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Stugatz. That sounds like not a super nice night. The debate. Old people love that shit.
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When... I get left behind. One of the places that I get left behind is when Amin and Mike are talking excitedly about an influencer named Speed, who has now replaced Mr. Beast as the biggest of all the influencers. I don't know what they're talking about, but their enthusiasm makes me jealous. It makes me want to know what they're talking about.
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It's very close to confirm that 64 people on board an American Airlines flight and three service members in the Army chopper that crashed into it, there will be no survivors. Jeff Wise is a longtime aviation journalist. He's the host of the podcast Finding MH370. And we have had recently four,
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Postgame Show: Scott Van Pelt Responds To Line Skipping Allegations (feat. SVP and JuJu Gotti)
Juju got beat one time by half a carry. Half a carry. He had a three-leg parlay, got the first two legs, got 18 carries of an 18.5 over parlay. A heartbreaker.
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Thank you. Please, Chris Cody, get that again because we cannot play the sound enough. Do you know what he's referencing there, Greg?
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The Philadelphia mayor did this.
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That was Greg Cody trying to transition and not knowing what to do at the end.
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Yeah.
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Greg, why didn't you just speak like a normal human being?
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You're just tired at the end of the show? I'm a professional broadcaster. It's been two long days we've been riding. What did you want to ask Juju?
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It's numerical. It's just numerical. When he appears, it triggers something that people go crazy, and the algorithm feeds all of the people who are interested in UFOs, and so it becomes like something that can be quantified.
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Greg Cody thought that was a bad guest. You tuned him out because you don't want to hear UFO talk.
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That's an interesting question to ask Juju out of nowhere.
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Juju, why is that? Why are we not more positive about the fact that the aliens aren't coming here to attack us or ransack us? Maybe they just want to spend time with us, listening to sports shows.
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Why not? Over at Sweet Tomatoes at the buffet. It's on me.
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He's going to start coughing here in a second. Do you have any other? There it is. Do you have any other? Well, here's one.
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Postgame Show: Scott Van Pelt Responds To Line Skipping Allegations (feat. SVP and JuJu Gotti)
That was Stugatz's nominee. Do we have any other critiques here or polls or what else do we want to do? Because, and I want to get to all of this, but Scott Van Pelt has responded. And so I do want to get back to Scott Van Pelt in a second. But finish us off here, Juju, if you don't mind.
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But how about Greg Cody saying that Betty White got around because she had three husbands and dated one other man?
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All right. People love the polls. Do you have any other polls? I really don't think you should say that.
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Any critiques on today's show? We have had a bit of a hot streak over the last couple of months where everybody feels pretty good about what we're doing.
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i paid today greg we are doing this for venmo uh juju if you have anything else i do have some scott van pelt uh questions for you guys before i call him again because he says that i was calling him at an old number so it rang on his computer just now so i'm going to i'm going to re-face time him now but do we want to take any bets on how it is that he answers the phone he seems uh i
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Okay, so I'm not, should I call him on FaceTime or should I call him? It's easier to put him on speaker if it's not FaceTime.
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Okay, so let's do this. All right, let's see what we've got here.
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Yeah, just a boring hello is all he gave us. Now, what's up, Denny? Hello, Scott. Nice to talk to you. It's Dan Levitard. You're on the air, and we have a pressing accusation that you might want to respond to. Okay. I'm sorry to do this to you this way.
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Postgame Show: Scott Van Pelt Responds To Line Skipping Allegations (feat. SVP and JuJu Gotti)
It's unpleasant, but you have been accused publicly by a person in Georgia, you and Matthew Barry, of cutting the TSA line at the national championship game.
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Um, okay. Good talking to you.
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Copping. I told you don't make me laugh.
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He has basically said that two-thirds of this bet is George Pickens and A.J. Brown are going to be pissed off if they don't get the football, so their quarterbacks better throw them the ball during the playoff game. It's the disgruntled off in the Thursday Thunder. Thank you, Juju. We appreciate it. Got to keep them gruntled. Thank you.
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Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up. Not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right.
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Make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer. Tastes like Miller time. You know, as the football games get bigger, everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion.
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Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller lights and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are brought together. By Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste.
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96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan. Find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Was that the mashed potatoes with my dad?
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I think the word dungeon needs explaining.
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I think there are some tickets available. Ticketweb.com. If you just casually search Stan Levitard in the search bar, it'll take you right to it. Also, for those watching along on any of our broadcast partners, Peacock. And YouTube, we have a QR code on the screen right now, right there. I'm pointing to it. You can screen that, and the link will come up right there on your phone.
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But yeah, tickets are limited to this, and it's going to be a great event. I love your dynamic with Dan Patrick. You're going to be giving it to each other here on this stage a little bit. Yep, nope, that's actually going to happen. They're going to have intercourse on this stage. That is correct. That is after the meet and greet. That'll go viral.
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That is a different package that is available.
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We can have plenty of cuck chairs set up alongside. All right. The meet and greet.
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Respect. Okay. You understand that I got to run that past my boss ultimately. Because if my wife wants eyebrows on me, they're staying on me.
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Well, this is the thing. Hold on a second. Well, next time you do it for real. Having Lucy disguised.
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No, that would not go over well.
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Yeah, that's true. I may have misspoken there. Luckily, it was not recorded, and nobody can prove I said that. In my 20s, when I had a full beard, I once shaved half my beard, meaning... This part of my face had an entire beard, and this part of my face was clean-shaven.
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Everyone's done that in the bathroom.
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Did you leave the house with it? No, but I surprised your mother with it.
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Somewhere there's a photograph of me.
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Oh, right this way.
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Most of the day. No way. No way. No, most of the day because I did it as a gag. Okay. I wanted to surprise my wife with it.
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And you did. And then what happened?
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And then she said, please continue shaving.
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But it took most of a day to get to that point?
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Yeah, because I had to wait for her to come home from work.
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We have an entire roundtable discussion with 70 people tomorrow. By the way, there's one more angle that we haven't explored yet. Me and Jeremy are waiting to pop this one on the crew. Probably tomorrow, maybe.
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I would say the limit is by however much Jeremy talks. Yeah, that's probably right.
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Yeah, my patience is fine with it until he starts speaking. Yeah, I get it. And it wears very thin. Super cool. Enough, Jeremy.
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What the hell are you doing with your eyebrows, man? There's something going on. It's not my fault. Did you put color in it? Honestly, they might have. They might have. Hold on.
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Our makeup person today is a different makeup person than we've had previously. And she put a little brush through my hair. I thought she was just brushing the brows. Maybe she was just brushing the brows. Maybe my incredible eyebrows that are perfectly coiffed. They're not incredible. When you did that thing, there's something going on.
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Dude, that is freshly cut.
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I mean, not freshly cut.
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You pluck your eyebrows, too. It looks like some other hair is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I definitely get my barber to kind of shape him up. I mean, come on. There we go. You got to the bottom of it.
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Rick Barry about to call up again.
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I'm serious. When I read about some team that no longer exists having won a World Series in 1896, I'm like, really? Yeah.
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The Cleveland Spiders or something like that? I've learned that you can convince me that any team in baseball was named a ridiculous thing. I see all these stats, and I think they could be trolling me. That's right.
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The Akron Top Hatters.
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The rubber feet. The bridegrooms.
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Me and Zach Harper had so much fun during the pandemic doing radio because we talked so much about the Brooklyn Bridegrooms every single day. This date in sports history. The Brooklyn Bridegrooms beat, again, the Akron Top Hatters. 13-1. I was like, what? And a doubleheader. Also, by the way, when we were looking up Cesar... Cesar Tovar, right? And his stats, he played for the Minnesota Twins.
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Me and Jeremy discovered the Twins logo back then in the 60s.
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It's amazing. Unhinged.
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It is basically the Mississippi River and then two baseball players shaking hands over the Mississippi River.
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They need to bring it back. I would wear any gear that the Minnesota Twins had with that logo on it. It's hilarious.
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Theater of the mind.
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Oh, look at that. Oh, look.
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Oh, that's great. I meant to mention that we'd cover this logo in the pre-show meeting. Thank you, Lewis.
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Wow, there it is. Congratulations. That's a landslide. A big victory for Greg Cody is... What's funny about the name Earl Woods?
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It just strikes you as funny. It has to be Earl, right? They don't go together. Earl doesn't go with Woods. Woods doesn't go with Earl. You put them together, it's magic.
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It was because college football does that, right? Like when you get down to their fourth or fifth overtime, they require you to go for two. So that's a similar scenario there.
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So Juju, this is what I would compare it to. When you're playing pickup basketball and people are arguing about a call, how do we break the tie of that argument? We shoot it from the top of the key. Now, is it the first guy who shoots for it, that's it, he wins? Or do I get a chance to match? Oh, see there now. I get a chance to match. So I think it's only fair in overtime.
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Yes, whoever scores, you score a touchdown, I got to match it. I can't come down and kick a field goal or whatever or keep this thing going.
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This is a triggering.
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I'd get it from the neighbors. Can I give him a pass? I think he read between the lines. I said my mom didn't whip my ass, which is different than not getting hit. That's like... You know, there's levels to... That's fine.
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I don't mind any of those arguments. And I patterned myself an NBA casual. Jokic is boring.
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I don't care if he was in South Beach, L.A., any big market. It's just not an exciting watch.
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Which is crazy because Jokic won't give a damn.
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And they are boring, and not because – I don't think they play boring. I don't think you would be any – more excited about Patrick Mahomes throwing for 250-plus every game. It's boring because, okay, you're the best. We get it. We got it years ago.
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They have the best tight end in NFL history. Their tight end is great.
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They have guys healthy. I think right now they're – I think last year their receivers were – and that was like the exciting part of like, how are you going to figure this one out, Mahomes? And he did. I think they're a step up this year. They've battled injuries, but I don't think they're that pedestrian. They're 15-1, and we never talk about them.
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That's what I'm saying about – Mahomes is going for it. three-peat, and we never talk about it.
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When he was a rookie on a rookie deal and they could pay everybody. When you make 500 million, you gotta win with people who aren't A-level talent, and the fact that he still can, yeah, it looks boring. It looked boring with Tom Brady doing the same thing.
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I'm saying that they're good receivers, but it's going to look like that when you have a guy that's eaten up your salary cap the way he is, and the fact that he's still able to do it is what makes him great.
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No. I didn't make the comp to Patrick Mahomes. I think you did. I did. Oh, you did. But... I'm saying Patrick Mahomes, we're bored by his greatness. I'm saying I'm bored watching Jokic because there is no flair. Because he's not super quick twitch. Because he's not out athletic-ing. He's doing things that people his size we haven't seen.
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But when you watch it, it is not exciting the way that we've been taught to be excited about people playing basketball. That's why Michael Jordan has that kind of thing over him is because we had never seen somebody move like that on a basketball court. About Larry Bird. Also boring. I'm sorry. These white people mad at you. I'm 38. I don't remember him. I didn't grow up watching Larry Bird.
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When I watch him athletically, it does not strike me.
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And Jokic is an incredible basketball player. It's just not exciting to watch.
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I'm just giving you my opinion on what I— Carl Anthony Towns. I'm good. I don't like to watch Carl Anthony Towns, bro.
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Woo! Woo! We have video evidence. You just said this. Why would I bring up Larry Bird? You know how far down on my totem pole? To get to basketball players, you think Larry Bird? You think I'm going to go from Jokic to Larry Bird?
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Man, you're bringing up the Sharks, not me, man. You're the one bringing up the Great Whites. I didn't bring those up.
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Put him on. I'd like to throw a challenge bag and replay the clip. Of who brought up Larry Bird.
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He's a boring athlete to me, yes. He does not move in a way where I'm like, oh, shoot.
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I am talking about the receiving unit as it stands now is an above average unit to me for what their roles are. You're not going to have a single person who is OK. This is a number one receiver. He has twelve hundred yards. He's whatever. You have Travis Kelsey. You have DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown. and Xavier Worthy.
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To me, that is an above-average core because you have a young gadget guy who can stretch the field. He's one of the fastest in the league. You have Hollywood Brown who plays the slot and allows Xavier Worthy to be in his true position. DeAndre Hopkins is just as good as a possession receiver as he's been in that role. And you have Travis Kelsey, who is the best tight end in the league.
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So no, I don't think you can make the argument that they're... At worst, they're three. They're likely number two.
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Yes. Yes. You have the quarterback who can make the most out of their abilities. But even when you are drafted in the position that these guys are drafted in, like you're drafted there because you have a certain amount of tangibles that other people don't have. Right. The Xavier Worthy's, the Hollywood Browns. Obviously, DeAndre Hopkins is who he is, as well as Travis Kelsey.
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That speaks for itself. But they are drafted in positions to say, OK, this guy is above the rest. in his tangibles and everything else that happens throughout the situation what quarterback you have what organization will determine where you go from there just that fact alone that you're sitting there with two first rounders that were drafted what in the last four to five six years or whatever
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Like, they have an ability above most other receivers.
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The teams are built different, though, Dan. And I disagree on the Hollywood Brown thing. I think receivers need to be. Like receiving cores need to be right-sized. There are very few receivers who are number ones, true number ones to me, that can just line up and win.
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And when I think of a number one receiver, I think of a guy who just go up there and say, hey, it's third and six, we have to throw a slant for a first down. Everybody knows you're getting it. It's one-on-one, can that guy stop you? Or a go ball. And in contested situations in 50-50 or whatever, more times than not you win. Like A.J. Brown to me, number one receiver.
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You cannot guard him one-on-one. Clear disadvantage. You will not win. It does not matter who is throwing the football. More times than not he's going to win. Hollywood Brown being in the Baltimore Ravens as a number one, he was never a true number one to me. And there's a lot of receivers we can go down in. George Pickens is not a number one receiver to me. He's a number two.
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They're very similar to the receiving core for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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What I'm saying is I don't. Gauge how good a receiving court is based on how good your top guy is. Most teams that win the Super Bowl don't have solidified number ones for a reason. Because a number one receiver should be the guy that's open. So when you look at the receiving court Josh Allen has, there's a reason why they are better this year than they were with Steph Diggs a year ago.
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Because he is not feeling forced or pressured into throwing to a guy because I have to get you touches. I have to get you the ball in this situation. And also, you hear the Amari Cooper interview from this week where he's like, I'm fine with my role. He's had like eight receptions in the last five weeks because it doesn't matter. If we need it, we'll get to it.
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is not a guy that should be a household name the way that he is. Josh Allen has not only elevated him, he's playing his role within the receiving core the right way.
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All right. I thought it was this particular take for 35 years. Not this one, but it covers about 35 years worth of ground in my career where I'm
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When they traded for Cooper, I said it was the most impactful receiver trade of all of them. Devontae Adams, as well as DeAndre Hopkins, for the same reasons you said. What they needed in their role as a receiving court that they did not have was a true route runner who can beat man coverage. So when that comes up, he has now the ability to get open.
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The first time the Bills played the Ravens, none of those guys could get open because they are not true route runners, they're not separators, they're not one-on-one, let me create separation for my quarterback. The last time they played the Chiefs, Amari Cooper is the one with the balls down the field because he's running the routes to get open. He's also getting the go balls.
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And so when I'm talking about Amari Cooper versus DeAndre Hopkins, I'm not talking about Hopkins is the same DeAndre Hopkins that he's been at his height. I'm saying for what he's going to be asked to do with the Kansas City Chiefs, he can still operate that at a high level because he's the possession guy.
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So Jalen Duren, Cade Cunningham, and Tobias Harris. Okay, I'm Googling who they play for.
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When did it turn? When did they start looking at Michael Jordan as the greatest? Like what year? When it was like, oh, he's the best. I think it was the first three-peat.
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Okay, yeah, I'm shocked that that hasn't taken off the ground. Wow, that is... I also don't think it's shocking.
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and honestly I mean you're the most you're the most offensive thing in this conversation right now oh wow so it goes you MJ and then Jokic yeah you know like no one goes through the day and sees like someone that's really good at flip cup and says man you're the Jokic of flip cup not yet
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I'm trying to give context to the take. And if you look at the stats, okay, I give you that. You have to use your eyeballs as well, though, because also Wimby is probably going to take over. And Wimby's just not as fun because he's eight feet tall. Jokic has that going, too. It's not as fun when you have a clear physical advantage for what you're doing in the space that you're in.
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I feel like I'm in a twilight zone.
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I don't think I've ever been in a room with five people who agree with this take. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. Okay, Roy, my bad. You didn't speak. I was taking your silence. As alignment. I shouldn't have to say anything. Okay, then we're on the same page.
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I'm just saying it sounds like a wild take. Also, you've got to look at the variables. The numbers may be better. Is the NBA the same? Do they play the same way? Well, that's an important one. Are the rules the same? That's an important one. You know, could Jokic do that?
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I'm not that. I'm not going to say Jordan would average 45. 44.6-ish?
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It didn't. It sounds like I'm being put on the spot. You know, I used to get in trouble for this. Like, if I asked my mother something in front of other people where she had to give an answer, I knew it was hell to pay when I got home. So if I'm like, hey, mom, Timmy said I can come over. Can I come? Or Timmy wants to come to our house. And she's like, the house isn't clean. There's no dinner.
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I didn't go grocery. And she's like, yeah, she can come.
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That makes it. I do want to come. I do want to say that. But the fact that you asked me on spot, that you would have got your ass whipped in my household.
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Goodness gracious. My Sunday just filled up. One. I just forgot that I had a prior engagement that I need to get to. Number two, I showed video evidence that I was behind a car accident. And more than enough time to get here. Also, traffic, one of the worst things Miami has to offer. Man. I would love to make a list of best things and worst things that South Florida has to offer.
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Traffic might be number one.
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We can actually do this.
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A lot of sunshine. Traffic is terrible. And as someone who moved from Los Angeles to South Florida, it feels worse than it did in Los Angeles. And maybe it's because you assume that the traffic is there in Los Angeles or there's still some version where you can predict the traffic in some way. Here, it is completely unpredictable, like completely unpredictable.
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It might take me, who with no traffic, I live probably 31 minutes from the studio. It might take me anywhere from an hour and 15 minutes to an hour and 55 minutes on any given morning.
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My number one worst thing that South Florida has to offer right now is traffic.
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Hey, I welcome it because my mom will also whip your ass, too. So that's the thing about it. It's not just a me thing.
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She was she was tough, man. She was tough because it wasn't she wouldn't really whip my ass, but she was a very tough mom because it was very important. She had a lot of kids and she worked a lot. And so the iron fist needed to rule in moments where she wasn't around. So she was very like, yo, I'm setting the boundaries, and if you cross the boundaries, there will be hell to pay.
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And so the idea of the hell to be paid, it did wonders. It kept us disciplined.
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No, so when you're parenting, there's like – I take my son, for example. He does not fear me at all. And it is the worst thing in the world. Not because for me, but it means that everybody else, like when he's at school and it's like, oh no, if I forget my badge and like his world falls down and I'm like, who gives a damn? What they say to you at school, I do not care about.
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If I tell you it's okay, there's not a teacher, a principal, a coach, anything that can do anything to you. And it frustrates me because mine was the opposite. Because in my mind, my mom was like, yo, you don't, as long as she doesn't find out, we are completely okay. And because of that, I can operate in a world where I don't give a damn if the boss says you need to learn to get here earlier.
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I come when I damn well please, Dan. You know? And so because of that, it's allowed me find myself in the world. And so that's what my mom was. She made, she was just very good. And I think it was just, she was in charge.
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This was a public school. Yeah, no, that's facts. We had community whoopings. Basically, my parents didn't have to whoop me. It was okay for the neighbors to whoop me. Really? Oh, yeah. It was like, oh, he was misbehaving. What? Yes. Community? Yes, man. So you got beat twice. You got beat by the neighbors, and then your parents beat you.
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I think that was the thing. It was like everybody else who my friends and stuff would also get their asses whipped. And they would all talk about my mom like, oh, yeah, you don't want it with her. And I think the fear of like, well, if they look at you that way, I don't even want to know. what you did to get that street cred. So I'm gonna make sure I stay in line.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Dwayne Wade propaganda penalty box. Mike Ryan's back there nodding his head, loving the vigorous defense of all he thinks.
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That wasn't even the right podcast. Can we be honest? You're now the guy who's just going to throw it to the video room without telling anybody. Let's put that in Amin's hands. That seems safe.
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So, Hawk, let me explain just the history. This part of the history has to be in front of people so they understand what has been begotten over the last 15 years. Riley is Belichick. The whole thing, Patriot Way, Heat Way, 15 years of LeBron, you come here to learn, and once you've learned, you can take it with you, but you learned it here. Jimmy, you learned it here.
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Like, you can take it with you, but we build that, not you. Organizations win championships. Jerry Krause, that stuff. So LeBron comes with the power, and then at the end of 2014, no, I got it. I'm going to go now build a league, $5 billion with Maverick Carter, because I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm going to go to Hollywood, do what you did during Showtime. I got it.
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I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Me and my crew are going to make leagues and buy Hollywood. I don't need you anymore. What do you mean you don't need me anymore? What do you mean, you break my heart? Like, I will say that's the weakest I've ever seen Pat Riley embarrassed like that in public. And this cannot feel good either.
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Like this, and so what might it escalate to when last year they had Udonis on the bench and when he went at SPO, Udonis was there. Jimmy will make this a mess and the player will win at the end if he's willing to be shameless. Like that's how Damian Lillard didn't get here. And one of the things you see happening now is Pat Riley burned by the Frankenstein monster that he birthed.
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So this is what I'm telling you. When Jeremy says that LeBron and Wade met several times a day, when LeBron came to Miami at 25, Wade's team, Wade's rules, Wade was doing Riley's work. We meet with the press. Okay, LeBron would say. Shaq had a conformed Shaq. Shaq didn't want that. He didn't want to, but he had to. Shaq didn't like it. Shaq would get into fights about it.
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Shaq is the first one to test. Is Riley in charge? Yes, he's in charge. At the end, Shaq, you're going to be outside with your stuff. And that bald guy, security, is going to be walking you out. You can't go get your stuff. We're going to kick you out of the building.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Let's do least... least conflict-averse people in the NBA.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
So, Hawk, seriously, though, what are we in for here? I know people are tired of this, but if you have at the crossroads of conflict, the guy who's not afraid of conflict and now he's walking into Bam Adebayo and Tyler Hero's locker room, Tyler Herro, when he has to get into a fight, he's taking Jimmy's team. He's taking his shots, gonna take his spot in the All-Star game.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
It is now Tyler's team and they're gonna be like, a little bit worse, but he'll get his. He'll get what Jimmy Butler was getting and they'll try to make him more of a star.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
What is that locker room gonna be like if you've got a guy coming in and we're arguing about money and shots and minutes and he's willing to embarrass your franchise, a franchise that's a military complex of, it's us against them.
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I mean, I'm going to give you the floor to give us your best 15 Jimmy Butler seconds and be done with this topic because we're actively annoying America with this topic at this point. With every last morsel, don't want to keep talking about it, and then a morsel comes in and everyone starts talking about it.
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The thing I wanted to play for Hawk because he did the thing where he's you're not a guy, that guy, the guy, a guy. And it made me think what our football analysis would be of this.
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That guy a guy you got CJ Stroud in there as a guy Brock Purdy as a guy Sam Darnold as a guy I was just trying to make names rhyme. He was asking a question No, but I'm asking all of you when you talk about Jeremy like that was you that's me.
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All right, so this is proper spoof music. Thank you for that correction, Jeremy. You really took all the life out of it. I mean, you did. I always do.
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The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
The difference between a guy and the guy. OK, you've got two MVPs playing in a football game and it's going to be in the snow. And they're both MVP worthy. And Lamar Jackson has changed the entirety of the position. Please explain to me when we talk about a guy and the guy in that sport. Yeah. There are what, five the guys at that position by your identification? Are there six?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
He's a guy. He's young. He's great young, but here's what. Is it the guy? The guy.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
The thing that you're doing, though, and please, because these are the teams that are left, right? Unsurprisingly, the quarterbacks you're mentioning, other than Burrow, these are not there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Not this time. But I'm just curious, when you do that to C.J. Stroud, because everyone comes to an agreement on C.J. Stroud has been worse. Nico Collins missed a part of the season. He's an important piece for them.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
But another one, by the way, we just forget that he looked like that when he had a one and a two that played like a one and a two. But also, you as the football player, at some point, like week 11, they said they had 25 sacks allowed by their guards and center. And that's worse than anyone in the league. None of the quarterbacks you mentioned can play quarterback that way. Not at their best.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Maybe Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson could get away from it, but what I'm saying is... I've seen Burrow with terrible offensive line play.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
You keep saying a guy, and a guy is insulting. It's insulting. No, it's a dude. He's right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Can you be good with Lamar Jagan?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
I have a new sponsor. You were wound up there. Have you been doing this? Have you been paying? I have to pay. How much do I owe? I was looking for a telephone number. I didn't know where to send it. Use this phone.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
I've never used Venmo before. Valerie was putting it in my phone yesterday, so I wouldn't be embarrassed this way.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Yes, I just did that, because I support the people who support us, and so Valerie would handle all of our transactions, because I like to pay cash.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
All right, so I'll take care of that off-air. I can't believe this guy... was insulting to those guys. You're a former professional football player. These people deserve your respect. If I gave any of those quarterbacks, the McCaffrey, Debo Samuel, Trent Williams, Healthy, Ayuk, Kittle, any of those quarterbacks would be the guy. Any of them.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
I thought he was selling cocaine. Amin, did any of us know Amin had an amazingly nasally fake snow in his repertoire?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Look, I will admit right here next to you, as someone who's 18 years older than you, I think, that I also, the first time I heard that song and Snow and Informer, I also thought originally when I heard the voice that it was a black person who was singing.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Well, look. Can you do that again? Or was that a one-time only performance? Because it really was. Him as Snow insulted that a white person is impersonating a black person.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
I mean, okay, whatever. It was a very good impersonation.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Andrew, why do you and I feel like idiots here? Like, why does Amin get to be the one who's right on this 20 years later?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Skipper's in town. He's a part of Unrivaled, a giant league that's now in town.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
We're buying giant property, so I don't think we've done it this morning, but get on that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Okay. What Shop of Ranks song did we play?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
So let me backtrack for just a second here because we have actual Jimmy Butler. I'm going to put it in quotes news. Okay. And the reason I'm putting it in quotes is the following. Okay. I just had an email chain with the company where they're like, 1-800-Flowers is ready to go. And I'm like, all right, I'm ready to threaten America that they got to buy flowers.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
And what Stugatz put on the email chain was, just tell them you're going to talk more about Jimmy Butler. Because our audience is done with all of the conversation around this. But then a morsel trickles in, and Jeremy and Mike Ryan get engaged. Mike Ryan hasn't wanted to have a heat conversation. Mike, look. Listen to me, Heat fans. Spoiled, spoiled, entitled Heat fans.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
All the obnoxious things that Mike Ryan is is a hurricane. Earned and burned through fire. Living and slaving at the knee of LeBron, Wade, and Bosh will beat you all. I'll show you. I'll show you. And then all the basketball after that is less interesting because of course. Because the starting point is the three guys on a stage marching around. You get all the free agents.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Yes, Miami against the world. Miami against the world. Went to two finals after those guys left. Understood. Understood. That obnoxious guy is entitled to put the titles in entitled. I beat the Celtics all the time. Don't embarrass me in front of the Celtics. And when you do, okay, I'm out. I'm not interested anymore. Not interested in the conversation. You failed. Bam and Hero, not enough.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
And now Jimmy Butler's at the middle of a mess. And what's the latest reporting? Because when Ramona Shelburne gets in the game, Everybody get out of the way. Get out of the way. Because the details, for some reason, when she investigates them are a little bit spicier than they are anywhere else.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Give it to me. Because I suspect that you will find the entirety of this story interesting. Let's begin with Kevin Love's part in it. Because Kevin Love has been through the fire, had panic attacks. went public with the idea of, man, the pressure when you're the third guy traded next to LeBron to win the championship, it's kind of disorienting.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
So Kevin Love went from leading the league in rebounding a couple of times, being the number one guy on an eight-seed Timberwolves team, to do we trade him for Klay Thompson? No.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The "Palpable Dread" Around Jimmy Butler
Jimmy Butler, if he's going to escalate things now, I mean, has the possibility of making a real giant mess, which is an interesting way to end things at the 15 years of player empowerment where it goes from Miami has LeBron. And at the end, the wheels fall off the thing because a player has gotten so much power that he can nuke your friends franchise if he's willing to make it messy enough.
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The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball
He runs it. He's great. He's the best person ever. Come on.