Anna Khachiyan
Appearances
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Katchian.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I feel like a child of divorce. This brings me right back to like my parents feuding in our living room. I don't really get Zelensky. I don't have a good theory of mind for him outside of him being an actor. And he always acts like he's like in a Liam Neeson or Tom Cruise action film. He seems kind of uppity and entitled when people are trying to extend an olive branch.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Does he think that the money will dry up if he plays nice with Trump because he's so used to receiving large Fs from the Biden administration and establishment Democrats? Is that the reasoning there? I have no idea. I assume so.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was surprised by how contentious this exchange is. It almost feels staged or something. I mean, I assume it's not. But I'm sure you guys are familiar with like the Marco Rubio comments recently. He's been doing a pretty good job.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
And he was talking about how historically when they try to negotiate with Zelensky, he kind of meets them halfway and accepts some of their terms and then goes back and blabs to the media that like, no, I rejected this decision or this treaty unilaterally.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
And he's wildly unpopular.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I mean, I think in New York City, like the Russians and Ukrainians and Belarusians that you meet tend to be on the liberal side. So they're pretty vehemently anti Putin and pro Ukraine, whether or not they like Zelensky personally. Yeah. So it's not like an exactly unbiased sample of people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
So I guess Zelensky is going to keep forcing the issue. I mean, I think traditionally Russians are who live in the West are like so against the old communist system. And I think maybe they view Putin as an extension of that sort of authoritarianism and they can't kind of get around that or accept that the world is different now. So that's probably part of their reaction.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Are you a chess player?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
She is. Oh, my God, you noticed that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah, she's wearing like a dark Lauren Sanchez look where it's like the Lauren Sanchez inauguration fit, but all black. Yeah. No, I said this on our podcast when we covered this topic. Like sometimes I feel personally sort of undignified when we like post selfies or shill our meme coin. And then there's like these influencers out there on social media doing like Maury Povich paternity stuff.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
We were sort of speculating on whether they actually like knocked boots or if it was an IVF baby because he has a record of that. Not really my business and don't care. But yeah, people have dug up like old correspondences, texts of hers. She had. Or she screencapped. Yeah. Because they were disappearing. She was ready to bed him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I'm not that scandalized by that because, you know, we women say all sorts of crazy things when we have our eyes on a guy. Yes. Like, I wish he would knock me up. That's not that outrageous.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
But I think just her conduct leading up to it that she like leaked this herself on Valentine's Day. That it was kind of like a pre-choreographed almost Instagram like post versus a tweet. That it had the name and email of her publicist who does crisis management and damage control for celebrities.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Which is not really up to him. It's kind of her job in life to make her own opportunities for attention. She can't count on him for that. Yeah, I also want to point out that like when people say like, well, it's understandable why she entered into this bizarre and unpleasant arrangement because, you know. It's she's set for life and think of the genes and so on.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
We were talking about this on the podcast. Like, I don't think that it doesn't seem that like fun or worthwhile or healthy to be chained to the world's richest man financially, especially when you guys don't get along and he doesn't like you. Yeah. Right. I will punish you because you overstepped.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
And then the genetic argument is bizarre, too, because even if your kid has like the most maximized genes and the highest IQ, he's already kind of screwed because there have been idiots like squabbling on the Internet about him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah. Right. A couple years ago. She has like assorted online history as sex laptop. Allegedly. Oh, I don't know. These are things that I like absolutely don't judge her for. I don't care. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
What are we rooting for? Has anyone seen Amelia Perez? I'm really curious. No. Because I can't tell if it's like a spoof or what.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Okay.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I think we may have seen the clip. Here's a bit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
The Oscar ceremony itself.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Well, didn't they kind of drop her from the press? I think she saw Netflix.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
That's what we're hoping for, like a trans black woman for the papacy. It's about time. Sure, sure. I kind of low-key love Carla Sofia Gascon. They're pretty moderate and pretty on point. Welcome to our side. Come on the pod. No disrespect to George Floyd because we have the same music taste and I can relate to him not knowing how to boil water, but...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
She's right that this person was kind of sanctified, not for the stated reasons, which is that people were locked down due to COVID and were mourning the loss of their own lives, not his lives. They wanted to get out and protest because they were angry about everything being shut down.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I know. I know. I was thinking about this. I wonder what your guys' take is on this because it doesn't seem to be the same thing as like men competing in women's sports where they have a distinct like physical biological advantage. This seems kind of more nebulous, but it is also kind of awkward and weird to have a person who is a biological male compete in the best actress category.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah. That's definitely another one.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
But I think I love this story. I just learned about it today and on the way here in the car. And I just I love when the kind of elites like woke politics come back to bite them in the ass because they'll foreground like showcase these people with like alternative identities. And then it turns out that they don't always like fall in line or fit the bill. And they claim to like respect identity.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
But what they really want is to people to they demand conformity. You know, and you can be like gay, black, trans, disabled, whatever. If you air conservative views, you are suddenly exiled from like the progressive stack.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
And it stands to reason that if you're the type of person who would change your entire gender identity, you probably have other problematic things going on in your life.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
No. I can think of another guy who disrespected the United States of America in the cherished Oval Office. Bill Clinton? Yeah. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Because then Russia takes it all. But I almost think it would be funny for America to rage quit and pull out and leave them to their own devices. Right.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
He's not wrong. That's true. Good point.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Oh, that's good.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
That just sounds like Cure Royale.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
That's so cute. What is a durable weave? Durable weave. I don't know. What were you? I don't remember.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
This is why we've never gone beyond being an extremely niche, uh, cult podcast because we're just wasted all the time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Interesting. Did they fix up the set to look more presidential?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I think she looks good. You don't hate them? She looks amazing. She looks better than she did, as you pointed out, when the scandal originally broke.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
She was clearly attracted to... his power and she was flattered by the fact that he took a liking to her as the leader of the free world like I guess who wouldn't be the one thing I can say that really I guess red-pilled me against feminism was the reaction of mainstream establishment feminists to Monica Lewinsky
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
like Gloria Steinem, all the bigwigs, they kind of got in line and were like, she's a slut. She's a whore. Because they had to protect him. Yeah, because they're Democrats before they're feminists. Exactly. And I remember, you know, being like, wait, this isn't right. This doesn't make sense. This isn't consistent with your stated ideology.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I mean, I might. I might. You might. I might do it. We might, but the society at large would not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
She would be seen as a hallowed victim.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
it's sad i mean but that's the real takeaway from all of these type of me too scandals i mean she when she was going through it wasn't me two times yet but there's like a reluctance and inability just move on move past and their identities are forever tethered to this traumatic episode and they have to re-traumatize themselves over and over and really it's like it starts to feel after a while kind of cynical because it's clearly like a ploy to promote their own work their own content
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
You can achieve other things. She could be like Pamela Anderson. She could stop wearing makeup and do a photo shoot. I have mixed feelings on that one, too. Me, too. I have overwhelmingly negative feelings as a Pam lover.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
It makes him look vulnerable. You should never. Achilles heel. You should never show your feet as a man.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
Or your Achilles heel.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
And as a woman, you should never show them for free.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016
I gotta go.